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Post by El Materdor43 on Jan 20, 2021 15:48:52 GMT
I thought it would be good to have a thread for sports. Top 10 lists, general sports stuff kind of thing
Top 5 QB’s all time
1. Brady
2. Johnny U
3. Montana
Here is where it gets subjective. I’m not sure there is a clear cut 4 or 5
4. Bob Griese
5. Otto Graham
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Post by CatSnipah on Jan 20, 2021 15:54:22 GMT
The "All Time" list is really hard to do anymore, in my opinion. This is because the game changes every generation or so. Look at guys like Griese and Graham - they were AWESOME in their generation, but the game is so much different.
So, you really have to qualify that any All Time list is taking into account their respective generations.
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Post by "statistically insignificant" on Jan 20, 2021 16:00:35 GMT
Brian Sipe, Bernie Kosar, Otto Graham....then it gets questionable
Tim Couch, Colt McCoy, Brady Quinn.....lol!
How did forget Johnny Football!?
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Post by FootTallRooster on Jan 20, 2021 16:54:44 GMT
You forgot Baker.
Yeah, this is hard list to do with how the game changed and not see some of the older ones play much.
1. Brady
2. Montana
3. Johnny U
4. Marino
5. Manning
Personal favorite was Dan Fouts. That Chargers team from early 80s was the best.
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Post by El Materdor43 on Jan 20, 2021 18:02:27 GMT
Air Coryell and Dan Fouts. I like them as well. I almost forgot Machine Gun Kelly. That guy was very good. Also another guy who made the quarterback scramble interesting was Tarkenton.
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Post by El Materdor43 on Jan 20, 2021 18:03:23 GMT
Staubach is in that conversation and also Bradshaw
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Post by El Materdor43 on Jan 20, 2021 18:26:15 GMT
Add Steve Young as well
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Post by Snorelacks on Jan 21, 2021 1:07:54 GMT
Such a subjective list. Tough to do due to eras, the types of offenses, number of/lack of SB titles, teams around them, etc. Lot's of great ones. I'll take a stab in no particular order-
1. Bradshaw
2. Montana
3. Favre
4. Brady
5. Peyton Manning
Tough to leave out Elway, Brees, Rogers, Marino, etc.
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Post by El Materdor43 on Jan 21, 2021 1:16:15 GMT
To be honest, I wouldn’t have thought about Peyton Manning for a while. I know he was perhaps the best prepared of any of the ones already mentioned but he was just kind of......meh. At least for me. His numbers were always good and in some years, they were great. He is kind of like a librarian instead of a QB. I’m surprised he isn’t in the broadcast booth yet because of his ability to break down plays as a color guy. Elway, absolutely. Even though his numbers weren’t always great, lots of INT’s, I liked how he played.
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Post by El Materdor43 on Jan 21, 2021 1:19:07 GMT
Ok, how about this
LB’s
1. Butkus
2. Taylor
3. Seau
4. Brooks
5. Singletary
I know lots of folks who classify Taylor as a DE but when he played, he was OLB. That’s why I would put him in there
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Post by FootTallRooster on Jan 21, 2021 2:18:05 GMT
I always saw Bradshaw as the ultimate participation trophy guy...but I did hate the steelers then.
Speaking of players I didn't like, Ray Lewis would be one considered in the LB list. But your list is about what I would have.
It's pretty amazing the ones the Steelers have had over time.
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Post by Snorelacks on Jan 21, 2021 2:42:08 GMT
LBs
Lambert
Singletary
Seau
Ham
Brooks
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Post by El Materdor43 on Jan 21, 2021 3:01:02 GMT
The LB category is stacked. I thought about the Steelers LB's, Ham and Lambert, and I think about the 86 Giants and their entire LB core is so good. It's hard to not mention Ray Lewis, but I didn't  Nick Buoniconti is another one who comes to mind. |
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Post by Snorelacks on Jan 21, 2021 3:26:42 GMT
The LB category is stacked. I thought about the Steelers LB's, Ham and Lambert, and I think about the 86 Giants and their entire LB core is so good. It's hard to not mention Ray Lewis, but I didn't Nick Buoniconti is another one who comes to mind. The position has changed so much over the years from pure LBs to hybrids. There are some fantastic players that could go on the list. Greene was another great Ram/Steeler. |
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Post by El Materdor43 on Jan 21, 2021 3:28:25 GMT
Here is a Tarkenton video. I would hate to have been on his O-line
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Post by El Materdor43 on Jan 21, 2021 3:31:41 GMT
The LB category is stacked. I thought about the Steelers LB's, Ham and Lambert, and I think about the 86 Giants and their entire LB core is so good. It's hard to not mention Ray Lewis, but I didn't Nick Buoniconti is another one who comes to mind. The position has changed so much over the years from pure LBs to hybrids. There are some fantastic players that could go on the list. Greene was another great Ram/Steeler. Agreed. That’s kind of why I qualified Taylor they way I did. If he played today, no doubt he would be looked at as a DE. Speaking of the Rams, how about Jack Youngblood. He also played on a broken stick in a SB. |
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Post by FootTallRooster on Jan 21, 2021 14:43:32 GMT
The Tarkenton video really shows how times have changed. The DL and LBs going for him looked so slow and clumsy. There are a lot of QBs that try to do those scrambles now and get nailed when the reverse direction.
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Post by Snorelacks on Jan 21, 2021 17:46:20 GMT
Here is a Tarkenton video. I would hate to have been on his O-line I mostly remember Tarkenton from That's Incredible. I do remember him though because my father liked the Vikings defense. |
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Post by El Materdor43 on Jan 21, 2021 22:32:03 GMT
Let’s take a stab at RB’s.
Brown
Dickerson
Sanders
Payton
Smith
Campbell
Riggins
Harris
Sayers
There are many others and I didn’t attempt to slot them although I would most likely put Brown at the top of the list. His YPC avg alone makes him the benchmark.
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Post by Snorelacks on Jan 21, 2021 22:47:50 GMT
RBs are tough. Just the ones I remember watching. There are others well before I was watching that were all-time greats.
Allen
Harris
Smith
Sanders
Payton
Bettis
Campbell
Peterson
Dickerson
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