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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Jun 30, 2016 16:36:09 GMT
Ok the bit where you state Tory Government isnt true as regardless of who was in power there would have to be cuts after Brexit.
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Post by Atom Priest on Jun 30, 2016 16:44:27 GMT
Yeah I know where you are coming from, However Nicola Doesnt hate England. She doesnt like the tory government. She has equal opinions for everyone across the United Kingdom only that her best nterests are for the people of scotland which is understandable considering she represents us along with the SNP MP's in West Minster. However going on with the debate, She isnt goig all out for an independent Scotland yet, Maybe because of the reasons you stated but I know she is trying to work something out with the EU to get us into the single market or some shit. I havent read it properly so far from reading the news today. Also for the Infrastructure question, The same questions could be asked for the Brexit referendum as a result of leaving the EU also only that the currency is held in England. However as a result of this our brilliant chancellor has just said that we would face more tax rises and cuts due to leaving the EU because "Tory government" :/ That last bit isnt strictly true. All the way through the Remain Campaign said a Leave Vote would incur tax increases regardless of who held power. The Leave Campaign cant comment as they have no plan in place to Leave. As someone from the Leave Campaign said they expected the Remainers to have the plan Well of course the leave campaigners don't have a plan. They aren't in a position to implement anything, the tory government is.
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Post by Snorelacks on Jun 30, 2016 17:52:36 GMT
Doesn't the exit process take place over a two year period? There's just so much chaff flying around right now (at least in the US news) that it is hard to get the full scope.
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Jun 30, 2016 17:54:42 GMT
That last bit isnt strictly true. All the way through the Remain Campaign said a Leave Vote would incur tax increases regardless of who held power. The Leave Campaign cant comment as they have no plan in place to Leave. As someone from the Leave Campaign said they expected the Remainers to have the plan Well of course the leave campaigners don't have a plan. They aren't in a position to implement anything, the tory government is. Thats a bit vague as a statement. They should have run like a standard political campaign. Expect to win. Have a plan in place for victory. The current government arent obliged to do anything as they backed Remain.
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Post by Atom Priest on Jun 30, 2016 19:52:45 GMT
Well of course the leave campaigners don't have a plan. They aren't in a position to implement anything, the tory government is. Thats a bit vague as a statement. They should have run like a standard political campaign. Expect to win. Have a plan in place for victory. The current government arent obliged to do anything as they backed Remain. Its not vague. How is it vague? The current government is obliged to carry out the result of the referendum since they are the one's who are in the position to carry out the will of the people. yes a lot of them backed remain, its the whole reason for oinky resigning. He doesn't want to stick around and go through with something he didn't want, that would be silly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 20:10:00 GMT
Doesn't the exit process take place over a two year period? There's just so much chaff flying around right now (at least in the US news) that it is hard to get the full scope. It could take longer but yeah it can take 2 years. However thats only if the prime minister triggers article 50 of the Lisbon treaty. Which he has not done yet, Entirely understandable given he backed to remain in european union. Even though he is stepping down, He thinks that the new or "next" Prime minister should be the one to trigger the treaty.
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Post by Snorelacks on Jun 30, 2016 20:49:26 GMT
Doesn't the exit process take place over a two year period? There's just so much chaff flying around right now (at least in the US news) that it is hard to get the full scope. It could take longer but yeah it can take 2 years. However thats only if the prime minister triggers article 50 of the Lisbon treaty. Which he has not done yet, Entirely understandable given he backed to remain in european union. Even though he is stepping down, He thinks that the new or "next" Prime minister should be the one to trigger the treaty. Thanks Brian!
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Jun 30, 2016 21:24:33 GMT
Thats a bit vague as a statement. They should have run like a standard political campaign. Expect to win. Have a plan in place for victory. The current government arent obliged to do anything as they backed Remain. Its not vague. How is it vague? The current government is obliged to carry out the result of the referendum since they are the one's who are in the position to carry out the will of the people. yes a lot of them backed remain, its the whole reason for oinky resigning. He doesn't want to stick around and go through with something he didn't want, that would be silly. It is vague because 1 the result of the Referendum under both UK and EU Law is not legally binding so there is no obligation to do anything about it and 2 UNTIL Article 50 is enabled we in the UK are still in the EU. There is NO timeframe for Article 50 so it could and should be years before we leave the EU.
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Post by RagingxMarmoset on Jul 3, 2016 2:14:34 GMT
It could take longer but yeah it can take 2 years. However thats only if the prime minister triggers article 50 of the Lisbon treaty. Which he has not done yet, Entirely understandable given he backed to remain in european union. Even though he is stepping down, He thinks that the new or "next" Prime minister should be the one to trigger the treaty. Thanks Brian! Snore! When are you going to be in the metro? We need to hit Pizza Luce for a beer and a slice. /derail
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Post by Snorelacks on Jul 3, 2016 13:22:43 GMT
I'm dropping my oldest off back at his apartment on Weds afternoon and giving training in Shakopee on Thursday morning. You still in Burnsville?
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Jul 4, 2016 13:17:09 GMT
Bloody hell, Nigel's stepped down. For the second time...
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Post by Pablo Pubehead on Jul 4, 2016 23:15:00 GMT
The Tories just needed any excuse to tax us and cut services,at least we had a bit of protection whilst we were in the EU,this is one of the most shameful episodes in British history,lies,backstabbing, Murdoch snooping around trying to grease up Liam Fox and Gove for the PM role,watch this space when they start taxing us for our "future benefit" whilst they give corporate tax breaks,it's not the peoples fault it's the inept government but the people will suffer,all these toffs sucking each other off in private school and fucking pigs heads scratching each others backs,the tories hold all the cards and Labours imploded
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Post by R35T NO MORE on Jul 5, 2016 9:29:03 GMT
The Tories just needed any excuse to tax us and cut services,at least we had a bit of protection whilst we were in the EU,this is one of the most shameful episodes in British history,lies,backstabbing, Murdoch snooping around trying to grease up Liam Fox and Gove for the PM role,watch this space when they start taxing us for our "future benefit" whilst they give corporate tax breaks,it's not the peoples fault it's the inept government but the people will suffer,all these toffs sucking each other off in private school and fucking pigs heads scratching each others backs,the tories hold all the cards and Labours imploded I'm amazed at just how fast Labour has destroyed itself. George osbourne is no doubt getting ready to bend the country over as we speak, as long as that guy has a smile on his face I expect the worst.
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Post by Valkyrie on Jul 5, 2016 10:10:23 GMT
The Tories just needed any excuse to tax us and cut services,at least we had a bit of protection whilst we were in the EU,this is one of the most shameful episodes in British history,lies,backstabbing, Murdoch snooping around trying to grease up Liam Fox and Gove for the PM role,watch this space when they start taxing us for our "future benefit" whilst they give corporate tax breaks,it's not the peoples fault it's the inept government but the people will suffer,all these toffs sucking each other off in private school and fucking pigs heads scratching each others backs,the tories hold all the cards and Labours imploded I'm amazed at just how fast Labour has destroyed itself. George osbourne is no doubt getting ready to bend the country over as we speak, as long as that guy has a smile on his face I expect the worst. Well he's at least abandoned his government surplus idea, since Brexit made it nigh impossible, and it was pretty much fucked before Brexit, so it's cut the likelihood of us seeing further tax rises in the near future, hopefully.
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Post by Atom Priest on Jul 5, 2016 12:36:23 GMT
A new party is needed, desperately. One that isn't cucked to multinationals and elitists.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Jul 5, 2016 13:05:22 GMT
Monster Raving Loony Party 2020!
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Post by Atom Priest on Jul 5, 2016 20:50:11 GMT
Monster Raving Loony Party 2020! Fucking anything at this point.
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Jul 6, 2016 9:30:50 GMT
Monster Raving Loony Party 2020! Fucking anything at this point. Really??? BNP? BF? NF? Any of those knuckle dragging morons arent welcome.
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Post by imhidingshh on Jul 6, 2016 10:22:51 GMT
I love the way that Nicola Sturgeon is demanding anything she can think of, and no one is listening to her.
I think Farage has gone because he realises his party is irrelevant now.
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Post by RagingxMarmoset on Jul 6, 2016 13:09:24 GMT
Sooo...what's the plan? It doesn't seem like anyone knows what to do now.
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