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Post by R35T NO MORE on Jun 24, 2016 21:29:20 GMT
Did you take Geography as a year 10 and 11 option? (i think that's what they were called). In geography I learned about Japanese nuclear powerplants of all things after I selected it, don't remember much else. Yes indeed. GCSEs. Yeah learned a whole lot of nothing. But do remember having to learn about subsistence, intensive and commercial farming which necessitated learning about the EEC Fair enough, odd that it didn't come up for me, although it was 20 yrs for me, perhaps they had changed the curriculum in the meantime, or the schools in my region are shit, as the EU wasn't mentioned at all at mine, didn't mind though tbh I was bored enough already.
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Jun 24, 2016 21:36:53 GMT
Yes indeed. GCSEs. Yeah learned a whole lot of nothing. But do remember having to learn about subsistence, intensive and commercial farming which necessitated learning about the EEC Fair enough, odd that it didn't come up for me, although it was 20 yrs for me, perhaps they had changed the curriculum in the meantime, or the schools in my region are shit, as the EU wasn't mentioned at all at mine, didn't mind though tbh I was bored enough already. Could be a different exam board, curriculum or geographical location
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Post by did 1 kill you on Jun 25, 2016 1:29:15 GMT
I voted remain. I'm trully shocked at the outcome, ashamed that people are basically so selfish. I feel sorry for all the young people whose potential futures may have just been trashed because Tracey, 42 year old single mother of 6 kids in Hull, doesn't like Polish people. Or Bob, an ex miner (20 fucking years ago) in Nottingham believes his industry will come back. I hear people saying they want to put the Great back into Britain. Instead they are simply putting the Cunt back into Country. It's a big world and Britain needs to get out of this Empire attitude, those days are gone. Firstly, generalising everybody that voted leave as racists or disgruntled workers is just stupid mate. I take it you are a pompous rich business owner that wanted more immigration for cheap labour? Or you are some sort of young university student brainwashed by 'diversity'? No? Then don't make generalisations please. There is nothing wrong with people being a bit selfish; they care more about their own future which is a good thing. We are all individuals, and not a collective of selfless idiots. I'm not sure why you think the future is ruined. 5th strongest economy in the world, and even after the huge dip in the pound we are still doing better than the euro. We just need to get our shit sorted and bounce back, which shouldn't be hard now that we can cosy up to China and the US some more. Some are saying India wants to do more with us too, but I haven't looked that up yet. There were a lot of reasons people voted leave for. In my opinion I don't think that most people put immigration at the top of their list. Instead I think most people had that as one of their reasons, but it probably wasn't the first thing most of them thought about. I for one voted to leave because of the way the EU works, and its plans for the future. The EU is undemocratic, but it is very very close to being democratic. Reform could be a possibility now that the UK leaving is making them shit the bed. Before this they would not have wanted to change because the people in charge of it would not want to give up their power. The reason it isn't democratic is because the EU commission makes the laws, but you can't vote for anyone in the commission. This makes them completely unaccountable for their actions, and now they want an army too. We know from history where such a system can lead, and I think wiping that possibility is a good thing. I'm not really bothered about the the economy that much anyway. I'm 50 and from Yorkshire. Most of my friends are ex-steel workers (like me), miners or worked in the shipyards. I know exactly why they voted to leave. Most of them haven't worked for 20 to 30 years. I know their kids and grand kids, same mentality. Your last line sums it up perfectly, your not bothered, so why post.
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Post by Skankhunt42 on Jun 25, 2016 3:52:10 GMT
Although I'm not British, if I was I would've voted to leave.
There shouldn't be another court outside of one's own country that can overturn your own courts. That's idiocy.
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Post by did 1 kill you on Jun 25, 2016 4:39:14 GMT
You mean like a federal or supreme court?
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Post by Atom Priest on Jun 25, 2016 8:34:16 GMT
Firstly, generalising everybody that voted leave as racists or disgruntled workers is just stupid mate. I take it you are a pompous rich business owner that wanted more immigration for cheap labour? Or you are some sort of young university student brainwashed by 'diversity'? No? Then don't make generalisations please. There is nothing wrong with people being a bit selfish; they care more about their own future which is a good thing. We are all individuals, and not a collective of selfless idiots. I'm not sure why you think the future is ruined. 5th strongest economy in the world, and even after the huge dip in the pound we are still doing better than the euro. We just need to get our shit sorted and bounce back, which shouldn't be hard now that we can cosy up to China and the US some more. Some are saying India wants to do more with us too, but I haven't looked that up yet. There were a lot of reasons people voted leave for. In my opinion I don't think that most people put immigration at the top of their list. Instead I think most people had that as one of their reasons, but it probably wasn't the first thing most of them thought about. I for one voted to leave because of the way the EU works, and its plans for the future. The EU is undemocratic, but it is very very close to being democratic. Reform could be a possibility now that the UK leaving is making them shit the bed. Before this they would not have wanted to change because the people in charge of it would not want to give up their power. The reason it isn't democratic is because the EU commission makes the laws, but you can't vote for anyone in the commission. This makes them completely unaccountable for their actions, and now they want an army too. We know from history where such a system can lead, and I think wiping that possibility is a good thing. I'm not really bothered about the the economy that much anyway. I'm 50 and from Yorkshire. Most of my friends are ex-steel workers (like me), miners or worked in the shipyards. I know exactly why they voted to leave. Most of them haven't worked for 20 to 30 years. I know their kids and grand kids, same mentality. Your last line sums it up perfectly, your not bothered, so why post. Economy isn't everything mate.
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Post by did 1 kill you on Jun 25, 2016 10:11:26 GMT
I'm 50 and from Yorkshire. Most of my friends are ex-steel workers (like me), miners or worked in the shipyards. I know exactly why they voted to leave. Most of them haven't worked for 20 to 30 years. I know their kids and grand kids, same mentality. Your last line sums it up perfectly, your not bothered, so why post. Economy isn't everything mate. This is true - happiness, health, opportunity, equality ~ all more important. I hope people get these things. If they don't, I wonder who will be blamed next.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Jun 25, 2016 14:05:44 GMT
Sure, I can see why people think that leaving will have short term impacts that might cause a fall in the economy, but I don't understand the people who think that leaving the EU is going to be this huge nation-destroying mistake that we'll never recover from. Sure, I can see why it might not have been the greatest choice, but surely it's not going to utterly destroy the country? "Oh, the foreign investors will leave." Okay. We'll lose some investment. Cool. They're not all going to leave anyway. It's not going to destroy the economy. "Oh, but the Scottish will secede". Yeah, they probably would have done anyway. The second referendum was a quite probable event even before we voted to leave the EU. So what if they secede anyway? They want independence, we're not going to stop them having it. And the EU's member states won't just shut off all trade when we leave. Why would they? No one gains anything if pretty much a whole continent refuses to trade with Britain.
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Post by RagingxMarmoset on Jun 25, 2016 14:44:35 GMT
Do you guys see this potentially triggering other nations to back out of the EU? The Netherlands, Greece, and Sweden aren't exactly enamored with the EU at the moment.
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Post by Atom Priest on Jun 25, 2016 14:51:22 GMT
Do you guys see this potentially triggering other nations to back out of the EU? The Netherlands, Greece, and Sweden aren't exactly enamored with the EU at the moment. It's a possibility. They will have a lot more difficulty leaving though.
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Post by Shhhhh on Jun 25, 2016 14:59:51 GMT
I thought it was more a Circus with Trump as lead clown They're all clowns as far as I'm concerned. I find it unfathomable that in a country of over 300 million people we ended up with Clinton and Trump as our two choices. Our politics has become so poisoned that nobody in their right mind and capability would want to throw their hat in the (circus) ring. I agree, this cycle is a joke and not a funny one at that. Although it would be hilarious if neither Hillary or trump did not get enough electoral votes to secure the nomination lol.
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Post by imhidingshh on Jun 25, 2016 15:48:03 GMT
Do you guys see this potentially triggering other nations to back out of the EU? The Netherlands, Greece, and Sweden aren't exactly enamored with the EU at the moment. Greece can't afford to leave though. But some of the people of Netherlands, Sweden, Austria, Hungry, Finland and France now want referendums, could be the start of the end of the EU.
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Post by RagingxMarmoset on Jun 25, 2016 15:54:03 GMT
Do you guys see this potentially triggering other nations to back out of the EU? The Netherlands, Greece, and Sweden aren't exactly enamored with the EU at the moment. Greece can't afford to leave though. But some of the people of Netherlands, Sweden, Austria, Hungry, Finland and France now want referendums, could be the start of the end of the EU. Yeah, Greece can shout and stomp their feet all they want, but the only reason that country exists is because of the EU. Their prime minister released a statement bitching about how the EU isn't doing it's part to shoulder the debt. I rolled my eyes so hard the neighbors could hear it.
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Post by imhidingshh on Jun 25, 2016 15:54:47 GMT
Within 48hrs of the U.K. Leaving, Canada and New Zealand have said they want to be one of the first to trade with us, Germany want us to be associated partners, France has said that travel between us will not change and Obama has said we will still have our "special" relationship with us (plus he's the outgoing President so doesn't count).
And Spain will not get Gibraltar unless Gibraltar want it (and they hate the Spanish), plus doesn't Spain have Malilla in Morroco? Kind of hypocritical to demand Gib back when they have that. And Argentina can't even put a plan in the air let alone think about going after the Falklands again.
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Post by imhidingshh on Jun 25, 2016 15:57:34 GMT
Greece can't afford to leave though. But some of the people of Netherlands, Sweden, Austria, Hungry, Finland and France now want referendums, could be the start of the end of the EU. Yeah, Greece can shout and stomp their feet all they want, but the only reason that country exists is because of the EU. Their prime minister released a statement bitching about how the EU isn't doing it's part to shoulder the debt. I rolled my eyes so hard the neighbors could hear it. I don't like the way the EU cares more about self preservation than it does the Countries it's supposed to help, £3.1b has gone missing from the EU coffers and no one can do anything about it. Plus giving Turkey the freedom to move around the EU and £3b a year to take refugees back isn't sorting the problem, especially when Turkey just let them come back over.
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Post by Atom Priest on Jun 25, 2016 20:08:08 GMT
Yeah, Greece can shout and stomp their feet all they want, but the only reason that country exists is because of the EU. Their prime minister released a statement bitching about how the EU isn't doing it's part to shoulder the debt. I rolled my eyes so hard the neighbors could hear it. I don't like the way the EU cares more about self preservation than it does the Countries it's supposed to help, £3.1b has gone missing from the EU coffers and no one can do anything about it. Plus giving Turkey the freedom to move around the EU and £3b a year to take refugees back isn't sorting the problem, especially when Turkey just let them come back over. Turkey has always been a problem country. Their leader has said that they want to remake the Ottoman empire basically.
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Post by MaNu SoLOo on Jun 25, 2016 20:46:32 GMT
Do you guys see this potentially triggering other nations to back out of the EU? The Netherlands, Greece, and Sweden aren't exactly enamored with the EU at the moment. Greece can't afford to leave though. But some of the people of Netherlands, Sweden, Austria, Hungry, Finland and France now want referendums, could be the start of the end of the EU. I just can speak about what happen in France. Just few people, mainly the nationalist and populist party (front national) want to have a referendum for leave EU. It's not representative about frenchies wishes and it doesn't mean that France want to leave EU. Problem is politicians. They think more about their career, their goal is to become President or Prime Minister and don't really care about their people. Like in "house of cards", they play their own game and want to be in historic book.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Jun 25, 2016 21:09:29 GMT
I don't like the way the EU cares more about self preservation than it does the Countries it's supposed to help, £3.1b has gone missing from the EU coffers and no one can do anything about it. Plus giving Turkey the freedom to move around the EU and £3b a year to take refugees back isn't sorting the problem, especially when Turkey just let them come back over. Turkey has always been a problem country. Their leader has said that they want to remake the Ottoman empire basically. Turkey isn't gonna get away with invading the Middle East and the Balkans any time soon.
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Post by imhidingshh on Jun 25, 2016 21:13:43 GMT
Greece can't afford to leave though. But some of the people of Netherlands, Sweden, Austria, Hungry, Finland and France now want referendums, could be the start of the end of the EU. I just can speak about what happen in France. Just few people, mainly the nationalist and populist party (front national) want to have a referendum for leave EU. It's not representative about frenchies wishes and it doesn't mean that France want to leave EU. Problem is politicians. They think more about their career, their goal is to become President or Prime Minister and don't really care about their people. Like in "house of cards", they play their own game and want to be in historic book. I know it's only a couple, but my friend is biking from Northern Spain through France and he's said a few French people have said that the UK did the right thing and they wanted a referendum. Do you think France would have one? Personally I think the EU leaders care more about self preservation than they do the Countries they're supposed to be helping. £120 billion is lost through corruption amongst the 28 Nations, that's far to much to not do anything about.
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Post by imhidingshh on Jun 25, 2016 21:15:01 GMT
Turkey has always been a problem country. Their leader has said that they want to remake the Ottoman empire basically. Turkey isn't gonna get away with invading the Middle East and the Balkans any time soon. Depends if they start getting pally with Russia because they can't join the EU soon.
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