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Post by DerailedWingnut on Mar 29, 2019 0:13:42 GMT
For those who doubted how stupid it is, word for word here is the Green New Deal.
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I never check my spam folder, but I happened to today. It's kind of entertaining and sad. Looks like I hit the jackpot!  They go onto calling the President, His excellency and that all I will need to spend is $410. They are also saving me money because the actual fees of a c.o.d. are $700, but they're waiving that. I guess they don't use the USPS. They could get a cheaper rate.   There was too many images to share, but this is the last part of the email which I thought was pretty funny.  |
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Post by Snorelacks on Apr 5, 2019 13:26:49 GMT
I never check my spam folder, but I happened to today. It's kind of entertaining and sad. Looks like I hit the jackpot! They go onto calling the President, His excellency and that all I will need to spend is $410. They are also saving me money because the actual fees of a c.o.d. are $700, but they're waiving that. I guess they don't use the USPS. They could get a cheaper rate. There was too many images to share, but this is the last part of the email which I thought was pretty funny. At least it wasn't some Nigerian Prince reaching out to help him collect his millions. |
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Post by test777777 on May 16, 2019 6:18:33 GMT
Normally rape/incest is exempted but not in this case it would seem. Presumably it can only apply to surgically induced abortion and only within the state boundaries too. I really don't understand the point of the law or how it can be policed. It's a stupid law. I lean toward pro life for what it's worth. I don't think abortion should be more convenient that using contraception. When abortion occurs naturally, it's called a miscarriage. The longer the pregnancy goes on for, the uglier miscarriage is. There are a lot of ways of inducing a miscarriage and modern medical procedures are hardly mandatory. All this law does is encourage people who otherwise might seek the assistance of their local doctor to seek out less medically approved methods which apart from being a more unpleasant and far messier experience is less medically sound. Oops - had too much pennyroyal tea, sure I aborted but it's damaged my body in the process and shortened my natural life span or worse. Alternatively, for those with a little more money, what's to stop them travelling interstate where it's not illegal and have the procedure done there. It's a fundamentally stupid law and concept which has no lasting benefit for anyone except maybe an unborn child. If an abortion is wanted it will happen with the states approval or not. At least make it a process where part of that process might be emotional support and assisting with the emotional decision making so it's well thought out and not a rash decision as well as education in relation to "safe sex" and a woman's right and obligation in relation to that while the other half of the process ensures that whatever happens next is safe. I don't understand how criminalising it is thought to be a good idea by so many. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2019 13:36:29 GMT
This is a topic that is so complex. You know I have faith and with so many situations, the Bible will talk about something in a clear cut way, but then it will also make allowances. Like for instance, it talks on the subject of murder and killing a person. It's clear that's wrong to do. But if a person is killed when they're trying to break into someone's home, it allows for there not to be guilt. It's been the pattern for laws we have like that now.
My point in saying all that is that in something like this, there's just situations that you'd need to take case by case and deal with very sensitively. I also bring that up because it is a lot of the reason for this push. But a lot of the people trying to use the Bible on issues like this, don't understand what it has to say about those issues themselves. They're using it in a way it wasn't intended to be used.
I don't have a daughter, but if I did and they were raped at any age, I would be livid. I'd probably need to go to jail over it. I tried to put myself in the shoes of a parent dealing with that and also put myself in the place of a girl who was 10 or 11 and already able to have children.
I can't imagine being that age and having to deal with something like that unwillingly. We have local groups that provide free pregnancy tests and counseling. I think the more options, the better. It shouldn't be, oh, you've got to get an abortion in that situation. I'm pro life, but in a case like that, I'm just not really sure. I had a miscarriage and needed an additional medical procedure. I had to deal with so many questions in my mind from, 'was it my fault this happened in the first place' to 'am I doing wrong in needing this procedure'.
I think I'd personally have trouble with getting an abortion in any situation, but if I had a young daughter in a case like that, it would be difficult to make them carry a child they didn't ask for. At the same time, there is a child there. It's what makes rape so selfish and bringing so many consequences to more than one person.
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Post by test777777 on May 17, 2019 5:54:23 GMT
This is a topic that is so complex. I can't imagine being that age and having to deal with something like that unwillingly. We have local groups that provide free pregnancy tests and counseling. I think the more options, the better. It shouldn't be, oh, you've got to get an abortion in that situation. I absolutely agree that a decision surrounding abortion should not be rash, should not be pre-meditated and also believe that faith if appropriate should be brought into the discussion. Culturally, I think it's important to maintain core values and it wouldn't surprise me if lots of abortions might occur out of a desire to maintain an image of being a "good Christian" when someone has been naughty. I mostly disagree with the state or anyone else forcing a decision one way or another except under exceptional circumstances where the mother is not old enough to appreciate the consequences of either decision to make an informed one. What I don't get is a law which makes abortion criminal and closes off access to best medical practice for residents within the state and what is expected to be achieved by such a law. Those with money will go elsewhere to have the procedure done. Those without will not have the medical support they need. With that latter comment, I need to remind myself this is the USA where healthcare isn't subsidised by the nation. Those without money are possibly forced to seek alternate means anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 2:01:59 GMT
I don't usually delve into politics, but I do have a question. I figured someone here would be able to explain.
I watched a few minutes of the debate tonight. One of the questions asked was, 'how many of you think crossing the border without documentation should be a civil offense instead of a criminal offense?'
I'm not really sure what the difference is between the two. I tried looking that up and just really didn't get it.
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Post by Snorelacks on Jun 28, 2019 3:03:27 GMT
I don't usually delve into politics, but I do have a question. I figured someone here would be able to explain. I watched a few minutes of the debate tonight. One of the questions asked was, 'how many of you think crossing the border without documentation should be a civil offense instead of a criminal offense?' I'm not really sure what the difference is between the two. I tried looking that up and just really didn't get it. A civil offense is a ticket for jaywalking and a criminal offense is shoplifting. Most of the current Democratic candidates are essentially advocating for open borders by eliminating the crime from illegally entering the country. There would be even less of a deterrent than there is now and we already know that 90%+ never show up for their court hearing anyway...it’s basically an open door their supporting. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 4:24:14 GMT
I don't usually delve into politics, but I do have a question. I figured someone here would be able to explain. I watched a few minutes of the debate tonight. One of the questions asked was, 'how many of you think crossing the border without documentation should be a civil offense instead of a criminal offense?' I'm not really sure what the difference is between the two. I tried looking that up and just really didn't get it. A civil offense is a ticket for jaywalking and a criminal offense is shoplifting. Most of the current Democratic candidates are essentially advocating for open borders by eliminating the crime from illegally entering the country. There would be even less of a deterrent than there is now and we already know that 90%+ never show up for their court hearing anyway...it’s basically an open door their supporting. Thanks. I thought it was something like that. I saw several of those goobs raising their hands. Got me riled up, but wanted to make sure I was understanding it right. I know Mexico and other countries aren't letting any of us in without documentation and they're definitely not as nice if you're caught without it. |
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Post by Snorelacks on Jun 28, 2019 14:38:12 GMT
A civil offense is a ticket for jaywalking and a criminal offense is shoplifting. Most of the current Democratic candidates are essentially advocating for open borders by eliminating the crime from illegally entering the country. There would be even less of a deterrent than there is now and we already know that 90%+ never show up for their court hearing anyway...it’s basically an open door their supporting. Thanks. I thought it was something like that. I saw several of those goobs raising their hands. Got me riled up, but wanted to make sure I was understanding it right. I know Mexico and other countries aren't letting any of us in without documentation and they're definitely not as nice if you're caught without it. Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.
The law also says Mexico can deport foreigners who are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” violate Mexican law, are not “physically or mentally healthy” or lack the “necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents.
However, our idiotic Democratic Presidential hopefuls and many Democrats in Congress want to decriminalize sneaking across a sovereign nations border.
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Post by DerailedWingnut on Jun 28, 2019 15:47:08 GMT
Thanks. I thought it was something like that. I saw several of those goobs raising their hands. Got me riled up, but wanted to make sure I was understanding it right. I know Mexico and other countries aren't letting any of us in without documentation and they're definitely not as nice if you're caught without it. Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.
The law also says Mexico can deport foreigners who are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” violate Mexican law, are not “physically or mentally healthy” or lack the “necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents.
However, our idiotic Democratic Presidential hopefuls and many Democrats in Congress want to decriminalize sneaking across a sovereign nations border.
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Post by Snorelacks on Jun 28, 2019 16:23:42 GMT
Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.
The law also says Mexico can deport foreigners who are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” violate Mexican law, are not “physically or mentally healthy” or lack the “necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents.
However, our idiotic Democratic Presidential hopefuls and many Democrats in Congress want to decriminalize sneaking across a sovereign nations border.
Borders are fascist constructs Snore, created by the patriarchy. The world should be one big unified country under one huge super-government. |
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Post by Snorelacks on Jun 29, 2019 17:20:23 GMT
I don't usually delve into politics, but I do have a question. I figured someone here would be able to explain. I watched a few minutes of the debate tonight. One of the questions asked was, 'how many of you think crossing the border without documentation should be a civil offense instead of a criminal offense?' I'm not really sure what the difference is between the two. I tried looking that up and just really didn't get it. LT...here is a very good article that essentially highlights every Democratic candidate’s position on illegal immigration- nymag.com/intelligencer/_pages/cjxg9ymru007yl6y6zstts42l.html |
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Post by test777777 on Jul 1, 2019 6:01:11 GMT
Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.
The law also says Mexico can deport foreigners who are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” violate Mexican law, are not “physically or mentally healthy” or lack the “necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents.
However, our idiotic Democratic Presidential hopefuls and many Democrats in Congress want to decriminalize sneaking across a sovereign nations border.
Borders are fascist constructs Snore, created by the patriarchy. The world should be one big unified country under one huge super-government. A unified country under one huge super-government sounds like a Federation or a Union to me which many large countries and at least one continent are built on. I'm not sure about the states of the USA(well except offshore like Hawaii and maybe Alaska) or provinces of the Federation of Canada but the states of Australia have border control between them for ecological reasons. There's also a confederation like the EU which is similar to a Union/Federation which allows fairly free movement of people between member countries but again there's border control. I'm surprised there isn't a confederation between USA and Canada...there might be and I'm just too ignorant to know it but my Wife tells me that on the times she's travelled that she found it a little confrontational and the Mounties, don't do jokes, small talk or banter. |
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Post by Snorelacks on Jul 1, 2019 14:24:10 GMT
Borders are fascist constructs Snore, created by the patriarchy. The world should be one big unified country under one huge super-government. A unified country under one huge super-government sounds like a Federation or a Union to me which many large countries and at least one continent are built on. I'm not sure about the states of the USA(well except offshore like Hawaii and maybe Alaska) or provinces of the Federation of Canada but the states of Australia have border control between them for ecological reasons. There's also a confederation like the EU which is similar to a Union/Federation which allows fairly free movement of people between member countries but again there's border control. I'm surprised there isn't a confederation between USA and Canada...there might be and I'm just too ignorant to know it but my Wife tells me that on the times she's travelled that she found it a little confrontational and the Mounties, don't do jokes, small talk or banter. Test...I had to chuckle at your comment on the Mounties. No they don't have much humor on the border, and they are very stringent on who they let into their country. A good example of that stringency is their refusal to allow anyone in who has had a previous DWI/DUI in another country. You have to wait a minimum of five years to even apply for a waiver to enter. I know of many folks who have planned on going up to Canada with a bunch of buddies for a fishing trip only to be left at the border while their buddies continued on to fish. Very tough on that. |
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Post by test777777 on Jul 2, 2019 5:53:38 GMT
A unified country under one huge super-government sounds like a Federation or a Union to me which many large countries and at least one continent are built on. I'm not sure about the states of the USA(well except offshore like Hawaii and maybe Alaska) or provinces of the Federation of Canada but the states of Australia have border control between them for ecological reasons. There's also a confederation like the EU which is similar to a Union/Federation which allows fairly free movement of people between member countries but again there's border control. I'm surprised there isn't a confederation between USA and Canada...there might be and I'm just too ignorant to know it but my Wife tells me that on the times she's travelled that she found it a little confrontational and the Mounties, don't do jokes, small talk or banter. Test...I had to chuckle at your comment on the Mounties. No they don't have much humor on the border, and they are very stringent on who they let into their country. A good example of that stringency is their refusal to allow anyone in who has had a previous DWI/DUI in another country. You have to wait a minimum of five years to even apply for a waiver to enter. I know of many folks who have planned on going up to Canada with a bunch of buddies for a fishing trip only to be left at the border while their buddies continued on to fish. Very tough on that. That's good to know although I don't even have so much as a speeding fine on my record, my mates might. Canada/US border is interesting since as far as I know citizens of both countries do not require a passport or presumably need to apply for a VISA. I'm trying to work out how they might know if someone has a prior conviction or not assuming that such records are held by the state in which the person comes from but I guess either, the person wanting to enter has to provide proof or the Canadian's have access to US state police records. |
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Post by Snorelacks on Jul 2, 2019 12:42:28 GMT
Test...I had to chuckle at your comment on the Mounties. No they don't have much humor on the border, and they are very stringent on who they let into their country. A good example of that stringency is their refusal to allow anyone in who has had a previous DWI/DUI in another country. You have to wait a minimum of five years to even apply for a waiver to enter. I know of many folks who have planned on going up to Canada with a bunch of buddies for a fishing trip only to be left at the border while their buddies continued on to fish. Very tough on that. That's good to know although I don't even have so much as a speeding fine on my record, my mates might. Canada/US border is interesting since as far as I know citizens of both countries do not require a passport or presumably need to apply for a VISA. I'm trying to work out how they might know if someone has a prior conviction or not assuming that such records are held by the state in which the person comes from but I guess either, the person wanting to enter has to provide proof or the Canadian's have access to US state police records. There is a database they have access too. Same for Australians coming to Canada...they access a database. |
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