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Post by defiantspurr on Mar 7, 2018 12:57:27 GMT
( .AreerNa)We we are seeing the result of decades of relative prosperity and entitlement. a sizable percentage of people have been so fortunate (relatively) that the work ethics of previous generations are now forgotten. That and decades of isolating our children has led to unprepared humans entering higher education/work life. Don't get me wrong as a generally liberal voter ( British liberal, not extreme socialist liberal) i believe that society should have basic standards and protection for it's people ( mandated living wage/min wage /national health service) but the populace needs to uphold its responsibilities too. And part of that is education and expectation. In the UK our higher education is becoming devalued because we sold everyone a lie that "everyone can go to university,get a degree and get a career" which is bollocks. Everyone should have the opportunity to go to university if they can achieve the correct standard of academic achievement. instead we have a system where universities don't care, as long as they get money. I had a trial recently in a pub. At the end of the shift they thanked me for getting involved and not just watching. Now im a gobby cunt but that left me speechless. It never occurred to me to NOT get involved. But it seems that some people would have just stood there getting in the way. i can believe that. we had numerous graduate surgeons come interview to do an internship with us. As well as nurses and aux staff. So many just stand around like wall flowers. Or in the case of student vets/nurses they had no idea that the job includes a lot of cleaning... Who knew that veterinary medicine was more than just petting puppies and kittens in between making cyber-cats..;-) |
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Mar 7, 2018 14:27:21 GMT
please expand  ( i believe that unregulated and uncontrolled profiteering as typified by unregulated capitilism is bad, and leaves our nation's open to economic warfare. Because most companies are never going to think about the ramifications of their actions beyond profit /loss and their immediate competitors.) I was being mostly sarcastic with that, but yeah, I agree with that. Generally the typical Labour line that "yeah, the free market should exist, but it needs to be really regulated and accountable", that kind of stuff. |
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Post by defiantspurr on Mar 7, 2018 14:40:22 GMT
Lol i just realized i misread the picture as saying. "disagree" 😁 damn i live up to my hair colour.. please expand ( i believe that unregulated and uncontrolled profiteering as typified by unregulated capitilism is bad, and leaves our nation's open to economic warfare. Because most companies are never going to think about the ramifications of their actions beyond profit /loss and their immediate competitors.) I was being mostly sarcastic with that, but yeah, I agree with that. Generally the typical Labour line that "yeah, the free market should exist, but it needs to be really regulated and accountable", that kind of stuff. |
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Mar 9, 2018 10:18:12 GMT
Lol i just realized i misread the picture as saying. "disagree" 😁 damn i live up to my hair colour.. I was being mostly sarcastic with that, but yeah, I agree with that. Generally the typical Labour line that "yeah, the free market should exist, but it needs to be really regulated and accountable", that kind of stuff. You're a ginger?? |
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Mar 9, 2018 10:30:30 GMT
Ive been thinking about the US Gun Laws recently. As a Brit I dont understand them but thats neither here nor there. I understand its impossible to take the guns away. Once you start thinking about it however there is one thing you could do. A centralised (whether at State or National level. Although I guess State would be easier to implement) gun licence which is dependent on a set level of training and a secure store for your guns. You dont get a licence without having a recognised standard of training. Biannual refreshers and random mental health checks. It doesnt mean you cant have guns but it does mean every other year you have to present yourself to a legally appointed representitive to ensure you know how to own operate and maintain all the firearms you own. Its not perfect but its not taking anything away from anyone and it would breed better controls. |
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Post by Shhhhh on Mar 9, 2018 10:39:53 GMT
Ive been thinking about the US Gun Laws recently. As a Brit I dont understand them but thats neither here nor there. I understand its impossible to take the guns away. Once you start thinking about it however there is one thing you could do. A centralised (whether at State or National level. Although I guess State would be easier to implement) gun licence which is dependent on a set level of training and a secure store for your guns. You dont get a licence without having a recognised standard of training. Biannual refreshers and random mental health checks. It doesnt mean you cant have guns but it does mean every other year you have to present yourself to a legally appointed representitive to ensure you know how to own operate and maintain all the firearms you own. Its not perfect but its not taking anything away from anyone and it would breed better controls. Can't get into now( leave for work soon) what you just said would be the removal of firearm ownership as a right. Having to ask for permission for anything regulates it to a privilege instead of a right. Should people have to have training, mental health checks etc for propane tanks for their backyard? Guns are not the problem, there are lots of ways to kill people. |
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Mar 9, 2018 11:02:48 GMT
Ive been thinking about the US Gun Laws recently. As a Brit I dont understand them but thats neither here nor there. I understand its impossible to take the guns away. Once you start thinking about it however there is one thing you could do. A centralised (whether at State or National level. Although I guess State would be easier to implement) gun licence which is dependent on a set level of training and a secure store for your guns. You dont get a licence without having a recognised standard of training. Biannual refreshers and random mental health checks. It doesnt mean you cant have guns but it does mean every other year you have to present yourself to a legally appointed representitive to ensure you know how to own operate and maintain all the firearms you own. Its not perfect but its not taking anything away from anyone and it would breed better controls. Can't get into now( leave for work soon) what you just said would be the removal of firearm ownership as a right. Having to ask for permission for anything regulates it to a privilege instead of a right. Should people have to have training, mental health checks etc for propane tanks for their backyard grill? To be fair anyone using propane to cook on a bbq/grill should be shot. Taints the food. Whats wrong with wood or charcoal? |
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Post by Shhhhh on Mar 9, 2018 11:34:01 GMT
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Mar 9, 2018 11:50:14 GMT
To be fair anyone using propane to cook on a bbq/grill should be shot. Taints the food. Whats wrong with wood or charcoal? Yeah propane sucks for grilling. Charcoal/wood is the only way. Can you or a mod edit the part in your quote of me about using it as a weapon? Don't want to give some moron a bad idea. Already edited my original post. Sorted. |
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Post by Skankhunt42 on Mar 9, 2018 12:25:11 GMT
Ive been thinking about the US Gun Laws recently. As a Brit I dont understand them but thats neither here nor there. I understand its impossible to take the guns away. Once you start thinking about it however there is one thing you could do. A centralised (whether at State or National level. Although I guess State would be easier to implement) gun licence which is dependent on a set level of training and a secure store for your guns. You dont get a licence without having a recognised standard of training. Biannual refreshers and random mental health checks. It doesnt mean you cant have guns but it does mean every other year you have to present yourself to a legally appointed representitive to ensure you know how to own operate and maintain all the firearms you own. Its not perfect but its not taking anything away from anyone and it would breed better controls. Setting aside the constitutional issues, lets say this was implemented. What professional is going to open themselves up to the liability of declaring someone mentally fit? What if a shrink says someone is good to go, then six months later, that person has a mental breakdown and kills somebody? That's the end of that persons career in mental health, and they'd get hit with wrongful death lawsuits after something like that. That wouldn't happen for liability reasons alone. |
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Mar 9, 2018 12:48:26 GMT
Ive been thinking about the US Gun Laws recently. As a Brit I dont understand them but thats neither here nor there. I understand its impossible to take the guns away. Once you start thinking about it however there is one thing you could do. A centralised (whether at State or National level. Although I guess State would be easier to implement) gun licence which is dependent on a set level of training and a secure store for your guns. You dont get a licence without having a recognised standard of training. Biannual refreshers and random mental health checks. It doesnt mean you cant have guns but it does mean every other year you have to present yourself to a legally appointed representitive to ensure you know how to own operate and maintain all the firearms you own. Its not perfect but its not taking anything away from anyone and it would breed better controls. Setting aside the constitutional issues, lets say this was implemented. What professional is going to open themselves up to the liability of declaring someone mentally fit? What if a shrink says someone is good to go, then six months later, that person has a mental breakdown and kills somebody? That's the end of that persons career in mental health, and they'd get hit with wrongful death lawsuits after something like that. That wouldn't happen for liability reasons alone. This is the way the Mental Health Act is constructed in the UK. linkThe litigation society that particularly exists in the US needs to be stamped on. It appears to be easier to sue someone for a trivial complaint rather than using common sense. Edit: and yes its getting stupid over here in the UK too. People trying to sue McDonalds for hot drinks that are too hot, Bakery Chains for steak slices fresh out the oven for being too hot etc. Im surprised nobody has tried to sue a brewery and car manufacturer after getting caught drink driving. |
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Post by JesterUSMC on Mar 9, 2018 14:25:12 GMT
Ive been thinking about the US Gun Laws recently. As a Brit I dont understand them but thats neither here nor there. I understand its impossible to take the guns away. Once you start thinking about it however there is one thing you could do. A centralised (whether at State or National level. Although I guess State would be easier to implement) gun licence which is dependent on a set level of training and a secure store for your guns. You dont get a licence without having a recognised standard of training. Biannual refreshers and random mental health checks. It doesnt mean you cant have guns but it does mean every other year you have to present yourself to a legally appointed representitive to ensure you know how to own operate and maintain all the firearms you own. Its not perfect but its not taking anything away from anyone and it would breed better controls. Sorry, you can't vote today if you haven't taken the required government training on ballot boxes and your Voting License expired. Sorry, no internet for you today, your license is expired and you haven't taken the required Facebook training courses online. Sorry, you can't have a speedy trial because you didn't pass the government licensing test. Sorry, your $5,000,000 bail for your petty theft charge will stay because you didn't take your required government Mental Aptitude test on time. Don't worry, your trial will be soon. You passed your Trial Procedure test online and received your Speedy Trial license, right? Oh, dear... Nah, I think we're fine. I'd prefer if the government had LESS control over my rights. Thanks though. |
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Mar 9, 2018 14:34:12 GMT
Ive been thinking about the US Gun Laws recently. As a Brit I dont understand them but thats neither here nor there. I understand its impossible to take the guns away. Once you start thinking about it however there is one thing you could do. A centralised (whether at State or National level. Although I guess State would be easier to implement) gun licence which is dependent on a set level of training and a secure store for your guns. You dont get a licence without having a recognised standard of training. Biannual refreshers and random mental health checks. It doesnt mean you cant have guns but it does mean every other year you have to present yourself to a legally appointed representitive to ensure you know how to own operate and maintain all the firearms you own. Its not perfect but its not taking anything away from anyone and it would breed better controls. Sorry, you can't vote today if you haven't taken the required government training on ballot boxes and your Voting License expired. Sorry, no internet for you today, your license is expired and you haven't taken the required Facebook training courses online. Sorry, you can't have a speedy trial because you didn't pass the government licensing test. Sorry, your $5,000,000 bail for your petty theft charge will stay because you didn't take your required government Mental Aptitude test on time. Don't worry, your trial will be soon. You passed your Trial Procedure test online and received your Speedy Trial license, right? Oh, dear... Nah, I think we're fine. I'd prefer if the government had LESS control over my rights. Thanks though. Thats the difference between the US and the UK. US law tells you what you CAN do. UK law tells you what you CANNOT. |
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Post by JesterUSMC on Mar 9, 2018 14:37:35 GMT
Sorry, you can't vote today if you haven't taken the required government training on ballot boxes and your Voting License expired. Sorry, no internet for you today, your license is expired and you haven't taken the required Facebook training courses online. Sorry, you can't have a speedy trial because you didn't pass the government licensing test. Sorry, your $5,000,000 bail for your petty theft charge will stay because you didn't take your required government Mental Aptitude test on time. Don't worry, your trial will be soon. You passed your Trial Procedure test online and received your Speedy Trial license, right? Oh, dear... Nah, I think we're fine. I'd prefer if the government had LESS control over my rights. Thanks though. Thats the difference between the US and the UK. US law tells you what you CAN do. UK law tells you what you CANNOT. I think you missed the point. Virtually all US laws tell you what you cannot do. |
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Mar 9, 2018 14:39:21 GMT
Thats the difference between the US and the UK. US law tells you what you CAN do. UK law tells you what you CANNOT. I think you missed the point. Virtually all US laws tell you what you cannot do. Like cross a road using common sense? |
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Post by JesterUSMC on Mar 9, 2018 14:41:36 GMT
I think you missed the point. Virtually all US laws tell you what you cannot do. Like cross a road using common sense? No. Once you have to ask permission to do something that is enumerated as a right, it then is no longer a right and becomes a privilege. |
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Mar 9, 2018 14:51:55 GMT
Like cross a road using common sense? No. Once you have to ask permission to do something that is enumerated as a right, it then is no longer a right and becomes a privilege. Why should anyone have to ask permission to cross a road without fear of prosecution?? |
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Post by JesterUSMC on Mar 9, 2018 14:55:12 GMT
No. Once you have to ask permission to do something that is enumerated as a right, it then is no longer a right and becomes a privilege. Why should anyone have to ask permission to cross a road without fear of prosecution?? My first comment was in response to your suggestion about licensing gun owners as a requirement to own a firearm. Crossing a road outside of a crosswalk is illegal because it's a roadway meant for vehicles, not pedestrians. That's what crosswalks are for. |
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Mar 9, 2018 15:09:28 GMT
Why should anyone have to ask permission to cross a road without fear of prosecution?? My first comment was in response to your suggestion about licensing gun owners as a requirement to own a firearm. Crossing a road outside of a crosswalk is illegal because it's a roadway meant for vehicles, not pedestrians. That's what crosswalks are for. As I said its not perfect. Maybe drop the licence but require everyone to have a standard level of training before they take one home. Even if thats just a basic maintenance and cleaning standard and some basic gun handling drills. |
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( i believe that unregulated and uncontrolled profiteering as typified by unregulated capitilism is bad, and leaves our nation's open to economic warfare. Because most companies are never going to think about the ramifications of their actions beyond profit /loss and their immediate competitors.) 
