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Post by "statistically insignificant" on Aug 19, 2016 18:25:18 GMT
No. If you think "this candidate will fuck it up, and so will this one, but one will fuck it up slightly less", then one of them is still going to fuck it up. If you think neither will be a good leader, you're not obliged to vote for one of two people. Vote for a third party or just don't vote. I writing Bernie in. I don't give a shit. We all want honesty and political change? He is our guy. It's BS because even the Dems turned on him.... |
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 18:27:41 GMT
With Trump you are looking at some embarrassments for the US, a lot of blocked bills, a lot of comedians striking it rich, a that's about it. Checks and balances will protect Muslims and everyone else. With Hilary it's not so, she has far less resistance to her crazy agendas and in her term gun registration/confiscation is imminent along with more of her treason that the Justice Department will continue to ignore. She is the worst presidential candidate probably of all time. She's not going to take your fucking guns, jesus christ. |
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 18:29:35 GMT
No. If you think "this candidate will fuck it up, and so will this one, but one will fuck it up slightly less", then one of them is still going to fuck it up. If you think neither will be a good leader, you're not obliged to vote for one of two people. Vote for a third party or just don't vote. I writing Bernie in. I don't give a shit. We all want honesty and political change? He is our guy. It's BS because even the Dems turned on him.... I think that the failure of Sanders basically comes down to the inherent fear of the left that's so ingrained in America. |
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Aug 19, 2016 18:30:16 GMT
If Hilary had one wish in life including a trillion dollars she would choose to disarm Americans. That's no exaggeration, and as she has shown CONSISTENTLY throughout her criminal career, it's not to fucking protect lives
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 18:34:13 GMT
If Hilary had one wish in life including a trillion dollars she would choose to disarm Americans. That's no exaggeration, and as she has shown CONSISTENTLY throughout her criminal career, it's not to fucking protect lives Why do you actually care whether or not she'd like to get rid of guns? You don't actually think that would be at all practicable? She's not going to take your bloody guns. |
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Aug 19, 2016 19:20:37 GMT
If Hilary had one wish in life including a trillion dollars she would choose to disarm Americans. That's no exaggeration, and as she has shown CONSISTENTLY throughout her criminal career, it's not to fucking protect lives Why do you actually care whether or not she'd like to get rid of guns? You don't actually think that would be at all practicable? She's not going to take your bloody guns. Why do we care? I said it the other day and I will say it again, the 2nd Amendment was put there for self defense hunting sport shooting national defense etc etc however the first and foremost reason was to be a final line of defense against tyranny. And when a govt works tirelessly to get that last line of defense removed, to disarm law abiding citizens, what do you think they have in mind? Should that be a red flag? |
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 19:28:29 GMT
Why do you actually care whether or not she'd like to get rid of guns? You don't actually think that would be at all practicable? She's not going to take your bloody guns. Why do we care? I said it the other day and I will say it again, the 2nd Amendment was put there for self defense hunting sport shooting national defense etc etc however the first and foremost reason was to be a final line of defense against tyranny. And when a govt works tirelessly to get that last line of defense removed, to disarm law abiding citizens, what do you think they have in mind? Should that be a red flag? |
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Aug 19, 2016 19:32:18 GMT
Why do we care? I said it the other day and I will say it again, the 2nd Amendment was put there for self defense hunting sport shooting national defense etc etc however the first and foremost reason was to be a final line of defense against tyranny. And when a govt works tirelessly to get that last line of defense removed, to disarm law abiding citizens, what do you think they have in mind? Should that be a red flag? And who are you with the foresight to tell us that they aren't going to? They try harder and get more and more desperate as the years go by. You'd have to be blind to think they won't. |
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 19:36:50 GMT
They're not going to take your guns. And who are you with the foresight to tell us that they aren't going to? They try harder and get more and more desperate as the years go by. You'd have to be blind to think they won't. Do you think it is actually a practicable thing to take firearms away from the most militarised population in the world, with all of the political power that pro-gun groups and politicians hold? |
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Aug 19, 2016 19:53:12 GMT
Progun groups don't decide that, if the Supreme Court declares the 2nd Amendment to be null and void, that makes all 100,000,000 of us to be criminals and enemies of the state if we don't turn in our guns. Nothing the NRA says or does will matter at that point. The 2nd Amendment is in no way secure or safe from Hilary and Friends
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 19:58:06 GMT
Progun groups don't decide that, if the Supreme Court declares the 2nd Amendment to be null and void, that makes all 100,000,000 of us to be criminals and enemies of the state if we don't turn in our guns. Nothing the NRA says or does will matter at that point. The 2nd Amendment is in no way secure or safe from Hilary and Friends Why the hell would they declare the Second Amendment null and void, considering how ingrained it is and how much support it has? And then consider that there's no way they're going to get people to turn their firearms in. The thing'd be a total clusterfuck, it'd never work. To make banning firearms work you've got to do it from the beginning. You can't just turn round in this day and age and take them away after 240 years of pretty much no restriction. |
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Aug 19, 2016 20:12:40 GMT
Support for legal gun ownership is steadily declining, not that that matters. What matters is that Hilary Obama Feinstein Schumer Bloomberg etc have been pushing to ban guns for many decades and she's certainly not going to stop if/mostly when, she becomes Mrs. President. The Justices she appoints will be rabidly antigun as well as anyone else she can replace. This is common knowledge
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 20:17:48 GMT
Support for legal gun ownership is steadily declining, not that that matters. What matters is that Hilary Obama Feinstein Schumer Bloomberg etc have been pushing to ban guns for many decades and she's certainly not going to stop if/mostly when, she becomes Mrs. President. The Justices she appoints will be rabidly antigun as well as anyone else she can replace. This is common knowledge And? Just because parts of the government are anti-firearm ownership, that doesn't make a repealment of the second amendment practicable. They can try to, and maybe succeed in, repealing it, but in practice it's impossible. People won't just hand over their firearms just because the government has made up a law saying they have to. It would be difficult to make it work without substantial civil unrest, particularly when everyone has a gun, so it would be a wholly pointless idea to try. |
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Post by flynlion on Aug 19, 2016 20:18:21 GMT
Prohibition was a thing.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 20:24:51 GMT
You want to try banning alcohol these days? |
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Aug 19, 2016 20:37:11 GMT
Support for legal gun ownership is steadily declining, not that that matters. What matters is that Hilary Obama Feinstein Schumer Bloomberg etc have been pushing to ban guns for many decades and she's certainly not going to stop if/mostly when, she becomes Mrs. President. The Justices she appoints will be rabidly antigun as well as anyone else she can replace. This is common knowledge And? Just because parts of the government are anti-firearm ownership, that doesn't make a repealment of the second amendment practicable. They can try to, and maybe succeed in, repealing it, but in practice it's impossible. People won't just hand over their firearms just because the government has made up a law saying they have to. It would be difficult to make it work without substantial civil unrest, particularly when everyone has a gun, so it would be a wholly pointless idea to try. You are absolutely right in that it's not practical, it's not feasible, it's certainly not logical, and its downright suicidal. But that's not going to stop them. Why do you think high ranking military and government officials keep getting purged? Why do you think they are being asked whether they'd fire on American citizens if ordered to? Why do you think certain govt agencies are being trained to do just that? Why do you think Obama passed an act which authorized military airstrikes on American soil? It's certainly not to stop terrorists. Because the best way to stop a suicide bomber is a fucking Hellfire missile right? Terrorists focus on urban areas for obvious reasons, not even Trump is retarded enough to order an airstrike in a city or heavily populated area which is exclusively where terrorists attack. |
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 20:45:35 GMT
And? Just because parts of the government are anti-firearm ownership, that doesn't make a repealment of the second amendment practicable. They can try to, and maybe succeed in, repealing it, but in practice it's impossible. People won't just hand over their firearms just because the government has made up a law saying they have to. It would be difficult to make it work without substantial civil unrest, particularly when everyone has a gun, so it would be a wholly pointless idea to try. You are absolutely right in that it's not practical, it's not feasible, it's certainly not logical, and its downright suicidal. But that's not going to stop them. Why do you think high ranking military and government officials keep getting purged? Why do you think they are being asked whether they'd fire on American citizens if ordered to? Why do you think certain govt agencies are being trained to do just that? Why do you think Obama passed an act which authorized military airstrikes on American soil? It's certainly not to stop terrorists. Because the best way to stop a suicide bomber is a fucking Hellfire missile right? Terrorists focus on urban areas for obvious reasons, not even Trump is retarded enough to order an airstrike in a city or heavily populated area which is exclusively where terrorists attack. Well then you can be content in the knowledge that if they try to take all your guns away (which they won't) then you can have yourselves a nice little civil war. |
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Post by flynlion on Aug 19, 2016 20:55:39 GMT
You want to try banning alcohol these days? Just pointing out that it happened, right here in the good ol' US of A where the liquor lobby has always been at least as influential as the NRA. But I don't disagree with you Sqn Ldr, in fact I agree w you most of the time and this thread is no exception  |
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Aug 19, 2016 20:59:39 GMT
You are absolutely right in that it's not practical, it's not feasible, it's certainly not logical, and its downright suicidal. But that's not going to stop them. Why do you think high ranking military and government officials keep getting purged? Why do you think they are being asked whether they'd fire on American citizens if ordered to? Why do you think certain govt agencies are being trained to do just that? Why do you think Obama passed an act which authorized military airstrikes on American soil? It's certainly not to stop terrorists. Because the best way to stop a suicide bomber is a fucking Hellfire missile right? Terrorists focus on urban areas for obvious reasons, not even Trump is retarded enough to order an airstrike in a city or heavily populated area which is exclusively where terrorists attack. Well then you can be content in the knowledge that if they try to take all your guns away (which they won't) then you can have yourselves a nice little civil war. Yeah the last Civil War didn't work out so well why on earth do you think I would "be content" with a civil war? That's what we are gonna vote off of? "Oh just vote in whoever fuck it, if it doesn't work out we'll just have a nice little civil war to set it straight" what kind of fucked up logic is that? |
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 21:03:16 GMT
Well then you can be content in the knowledge that if they try to take all your guns away (which they won't) then you can have yourselves a nice little civil war. Yeah the last Civil War didn't work out so well why on earth do you think I would "be content" with a civil war? That's what we are gonna vote off of? "Oh just vote in whoever fuck it, if it doesn't work out we'll just have a nice little civil war to set it straight" what kind of fucked up logic is that? That isn't what I meant, I was being sarcastic. Because, you know, it's a bad idea to take guns off Americans because it will result in violence, a civil war here being an exaggeration of said violence. Because Clinton isn't just "going to take your guns" because it won't work. No one's going to take your guns. |
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