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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 18, 2016 0:36:45 GMT
It's better than Trump's unguided waffling. He's like an easily distracted hyperactive child. "I'm shouting about Mexicans!" "Now I'm gonna talk about that baby in the audience down there". "Okay, back to the, what was it? Oh yeah, the Muslims, that was it". "Oh, look at that man's red hat, let's talk about that". It's just spontaneous crap, it's like the clickbait title of political dialogue. Have you listened to a whole Trump speech? I found the one he gave yesterday was actually fairly well delivered and on point. No, not a whole one. But I looked at the full speech from that convention or whatever it was, and skipped to six different points throughout the video. He essentially just focuses wholly on the fact that the country is in peril from terrorism and everyone's going to be horribly at risk if they don't vote for him. It's all about terrorism, law and order and immigration. It's all just scaremongering.
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Post by Skankhunt42 on Aug 18, 2016 0:44:56 GMT
I'm not a Hillary fan by any stretch. Bern baby Bern!! But I'm curious why she can't be trusted? The GOP has spent MILLIONS to find her guilty of something, anything. And what have they found? Zip. Nothing. So to use that as a reason why she is the lesser choice boggles my mind. On the other hand, when has the REALITY STAR/REAL STATE TYCOON ever done anything to deserve to be our president? What are his qualifications? MONEY? What previous political office has he held? I know he speaks in a 5th grade dialogue to make it easier for the bumpkins to understand. And he really doesn't say anything important just blabs useless junk those bumpkins want to hear. Again, why is he qualified? I don't know which side to be more ashamed of. The ones who voted Trump in? Or the ones who DIDN'T vote Bernie in? I'm pretty sure if you ask for a paper ballot you can still write in a vote. That's my plan. Hillary was fired from the House Watergate investigating for ethics violations and lying. She is not qualified to be a president of anything, let alone a country. By the letter of the law, she absolutely is guilty in the email scandal, as the FBI director let her off because she didn't "intend" to do anything wrong, which isn't a legal defense anyone else can use, because it isn't a legal defense at all. Intent is irrelevant in the eyes of the law, so I have to imagine the FBI director let her off because he didn't want to "commit suicide" within the next few months. As for trump, political office isn't a requirement to be president, and some of the better ones were not career politicians either. I'm not a blind trump supporter, but to pretend running a billion dollar empire doesn't require some political savvy just isn't true.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 18, 2016 0:45:57 GMT
Another thing on Trump's speeches; it's all very convincing, I will say. His delivery is pretty good, he's definitely got something persuasive about him. But his speeches lack content. It's all "I am going to keep you all safe!", "I am going to combat terrorism!", but he doesn't actually go into detail about how he's going to do it. He's also hard to take seriously most of the time anyway because he consistently disgraces himself and he looks like a crusty old satsuma that's been left in the fruit bowl for about six weeks.
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Post by "statistically insignificant" on Aug 18, 2016 0:47:15 GMT
George Takei's take on a Trump's answer of what is 2+2. I thought this was funny.
"I have to say a lot of people have been asking this question. No, really. A lot of people come up to me, and they ask me. They say, 'What's 2+2'? And I tell them, look, we know what 2+2 is. We've had almost eight years of the worst kind of math you can imagine. Oh, my God, I can't believe it. Addition and subtraction of the 1s the 2s and the 3s. It's terrible. It's just terrible. Look, if you want to know what 2+2 is, do you want to know what 2+2 is? I'll tell you. First of all the number 2, by the way, I love the number 2. It's probably my favorite number, no it is my favorite number. You know what, it's probably more like the number two but with a lot of zeros behind it. A lot. If I'm being honest, I mean, if I'm being honest. I like a lot of zeros. Except for Marco Rubio, now he's a zero that I don't like. Though, I probably shouldn't say that. He's a nice guy, but he's like, '10101000101,' on and on, like that. He's like a computer! You know what I mean? He's like a computer. I don't know. I mean, you know. So, we have all these numbers, and we can add them and subtract them and add them. TIMES them even. Did you know that? We can times them OR divide them, they don't tell you that, and I'll tell you, no one is better at the order of operations than me. You wouldn't believe it. So, we're gonna be the best on 2+2, believe me."
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 18, 2016 0:49:01 GMT
I'm not a Hillary fan by any stretch. Bern baby Bern!! But I'm curious why she can't be trusted? The GOP has spent MILLIONS to find her guilty of something, anything. And what have they found? Zip. Nothing. So to use that as a reason why she is the lesser choice boggles my mind. On the other hand, when has the REALITY STAR/REAL STATE TYCOON ever done anything to deserve to be our president? What are his qualifications? MONEY? What previous political office has he held? I know he speaks in a 5th grade dialogue to make it easier for the bumpkins to understand. And he really doesn't say anything important just blabs useless junk those bumpkins want to hear. Again, why is he qualified? I don't know which side to be more ashamed of. The ones who voted Trump in? Or the ones who DIDN'T vote Bernie in? I'm pretty sure if you ask for a paper ballot you can still write in a vote. That's my plan. Hillary was fired from the House Watergate investigating for ethics violations and lying. She is not qualified to be a president of anything, let alone a country. By the letter of the law, she absolutely is guilty in the email scandal, as the FBI director let her off because she didn't "intend" to do anything wrong, which isn't a legal defense anyone else can use, because it isn't a legal defense at all. Intent is irrelevant in the eyes of the law, so I have to imagine the FBI director let her off because he didn't want to "commit suicide" within the next few months. As for trump, political office isn't a requirement to be president, and some of the better ones were not career politicians either. I'm not a blind trump supporter, but to pretend running a billion dollar empire doesn't require some political savvy just isn't true. Are you actually suggesting that Clinton actually goes around indiscriminately killing people to further her campaign? Because that's just total bullshit, I'm sorry, but I find it very hard to believe that she's arranged the murders of several people over her campaign. Also Trump has no political savvy, his billion dollar empire is founded on manipulating people and giving the little man the short end of the stick.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 18, 2016 0:49:57 GMT
George Takei's take on a Trump's answer of what is 2+2. I thought this was funny. "I have to say a lot of people have been asking this question. No, really. A lot of people come up to me, and they ask me. They say, 'What's 2+2'? And I tell them, look, we know what 2+2 is. We've had almost eight years of the worst kind of math you can imagine. Oh, my God, I can't believe it. Addition and subtraction of the 1s the 2s and the 3s. It's terrible. It's just terrible. Look, if you want to know what 2+2 is, do you want to know what 2+2 is? I'll tell you. First of all the number 2, by the way, I love the number 2. It's probably my favorite number, no it is my favorite number. You know what, it's probably more like the number two but with a lot of zeros behind it. A lot. If I'm being honest, I mean, if I'm being honest. I like a lot of zeros. Except for Marco Rubio, now he's a zero that I don't like. Though, I probably shouldn't say that. He's a nice guy, but he's like, '10101000101,' on and on, like that. He's like a computer! You know what I mean? He's like a computer. I don't know. I mean, you know. So, we have all these numbers, and we can add them and subtract them and add them. TIMES them even. Did you know that? We can times them OR divide them, they don't tell you that, and I'll tell you, no one is better at the order of operations than me. You wouldn't believe it. So, we're gonna be the best on 2+2, believe me." This is exactly it. His speeches have no content, he just packs them full of random shit to convince people, and by the end of it he's answered nothing at all.
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Post by Skankhunt42 on Aug 18, 2016 0:55:24 GMT
Hillary was fired from the House Watergate investigating for ethics violations and lying. She is not qualified to be a president of anything, let alone a country. By the letter of the law, she absolutely is guilty in the email scandal, as the FBI director let her off because she didn't "intend" to do anything wrong, which isn't a legal defense anyone else can use, because it isn't a legal defense at all. Intent is irrelevant in the eyes of the law, so I have to imagine the FBI director let her off because he didn't want to "commit suicide" within the next few months. As for trump, political office isn't a requirement to be president, and some of the better ones were not career politicians either. I'm not a blind trump supporter, but to pretend running a billion dollar empire doesn't require some political savvy just isn't true. Are you actually suggesting that Clinton actually goes around indiscriminately killing people to further her campaign? Because that's just total bullshit, I'm sorry, but I find it very hard to believe that she's arranged the murders of several people over her campaign. Also Trump has no political savvy, his billion dollar empire is founded on manipulating people and giving the little man the short end of the stick. The Clintons have so many bodies surrounding them, and have for years, it's stretches credulity to suggest all of them are the product of random coincidences. As for trump, you certainly do have to know quite a bit of politicing to get major projects and such done in the states. I'm not suggesting he's bribing people or anything like that, merely pointing out that he's not someone who knows nothing of our political system. In this election cycle, I'm much like diablo up there. I don't care about any issue except appointment of actual constitutional judges to SCOTUS. Billary won't do that, which leaves us with trump, who will do that, considering he's already published a list of judges he'd appoint from.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 18, 2016 1:01:20 GMT
Are you actually suggesting that Clinton actually goes around indiscriminately killing people to further her campaign? Because that's just total bullshit, I'm sorry, but I find it very hard to believe that she's arranged the murders of several people over her campaign. Also Trump has no political savvy, his billion dollar empire is founded on manipulating people and giving the little man the short end of the stick. The Clintons have so many bodies surrounding them, and have for years, it's stretches credulity to suggest all of them are the product of random coincidences. As for trump, you certainly do have to know quite a bit of politicing to get major projects and such done in the states. I'm not suggesting he's bribing people or anything like that, merely pointing out that he's not someone who knows nothing of our political system. In this election cycle, I'm much like diablo up there. I don't care about any issue except appointment of actual constitutional judges to SCOTUS. Billary won't do that, which leaves us with trump, who will do that, considering he's already published a list of judges he'd appoint from. The amount of crazy bullshit conspiracies that have come up around this election of yours stretches credulity.
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Post by flynlion on Aug 18, 2016 1:04:02 GMT
Vote Third Party. Now, more than ever.
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Post by "statistically insignificant" on Aug 18, 2016 1:09:09 GMT
I'm not a Hillary fan by any stretch. Bern baby Bern!! But I'm curious why she can't be trusted? The GOP has spent MILLIONS to find her guilty of something, anything. And what have they found? Zip. Nothing. So to use that as a reason why she is the lesser choice boggles my mind. On the other hand, when has the REALITY STAR/REAL STATE TYCOON ever done anything to deserve to be our president? What are his qualifications? MONEY? What previous political office has he held? I know he speaks in a 5th grade dialogue to make it easier for the bumpkins to understand. And he really doesn't say anything important just blabs useless junk those bumpkins want to hear. Again, why is he qualified? I don't know which side to be more ashamed of. The ones who voted Trump in? Or the ones who DIDN'T vote Bernie in? I'm pretty sure if you ask for a paper ballot you can still write in a vote. That's my plan. As for trump, political office isn't a requirement to be president, and some of the better ones were not career politicians either. I'm not a blind trump supporter, but to pretend running a billion dollar empire doesn't require some political savvy just isn't true. Taylor, Grant, Hoover, And Eisenhower were the only Presidents who did not hold a previous elected office. Hoover was Secretary of Commerce and the head of the United States Food Administration, appointed not elected. The other three were military Generals. Where does Mr. Trump fall into place?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 1:29:35 GMT
Vote Third Party. Now, more than ever. Third party hands the election to Clinton. The SCOTUS stakes are too high for that.
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Aug 18, 2016 2:06:11 GMT
From a British POV the major problem with Trump is that for some unknown reason he appears to want a scrap with China. And its not too much of a stretch that he'll want a fight with the Soviets (yes the Soviets. Putin has done almost everything bar renaming Russia). I dont think in that situation the "Special Relationship" would hold up to much scrutiny. China are THE current strong economy. We all know that. I dont get what his problem is there. Although it may be his several bankruptcies. And if we leave Russia to be Russia they'll have glasnost sooner or later.
As for Hillary. Im not a dog so cant hear what shes screeching.
However the US have a choice. Rock or Hard Place. Devil or Deep Blue Sea. Dumb or Dumber.
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Post by Skankhunt42 on Aug 18, 2016 2:16:36 GMT
As for trump, political office isn't a requirement to be president, and some of the better ones were not career politicians either. I'm not a blind trump supporter, but to pretend running a billion dollar empire doesn't require some political savvy just isn't true. Taylor, Grant, Hoover, And Eisenhower were the only Presidents who did not hold a previous elected office. Hoover was Secretary of Commerce and the head of the United States Food Administration, appointed not elected. The other three were military Generals. Where does Mr. Trump fall into place? Did Washington have a previous office? I'm honestly not sure. Anyhow, I meant career politician. There have been presidents who got elected after oneish term in whatever prior office they were in.
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Post by Skankhunt42 on Aug 18, 2016 2:18:20 GMT
The Clintons have so many bodies surrounding them, and have for years, it's stretches credulity to suggest all of them are the product of random coincidences. As for trump, you certainly do have to know quite a bit of politicing to get major projects and such done in the states. I'm not suggesting he's bribing people or anything like that, merely pointing out that he's not someone who knows nothing of our political system. In this election cycle, I'm much like diablo up there. I don't care about any issue except appointment of actual constitutional judges to SCOTUS. Billary won't do that, which leaves us with trump, who will do that, considering he's already published a list of judges he'd appoint from. The amount of crazy bullshit conspiracies that have come up around this election of yours stretches credulity. That may also be true, but in reference to the absurd number of coincidental suicides, accidents, murders, etc around the Clintons isn't anything new, that didn't crop up this election cycle.
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Aug 18, 2016 2:22:51 GMT
The amount of crazy bullshit conspiracies that have come up around this election of yours stretches credulity. That may also be true, but in reference to the absurd number of coincidental suicides, accidents, murders, etc around the Clintons isn't anything new, that didn't crop up this election cycle. Sometimes I wonder. Negative News stories keep them in the Publics eye. How much is conspiracy how much is spin???
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Post by flynlion on Aug 18, 2016 2:37:17 GMT
Vote Third Party. Now, more than ever. Third party hands the election to Clinton. The SCOTUS stakes are too high for that. Meh, that's what they say every election  I prefer to vote for someone I like and a platform I believe in, rather than the lesser of two evils. I haven't voted for a Dem or Rep since the late 1980's and I damn sure aint gonna this year.
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Post by "statistically insignificant" on Aug 18, 2016 4:37:11 GMT
Taylor, Grant, Hoover, And Eisenhower were the only Presidents who did not hold a previous elected office. Hoover was Secretary of Commerce and the head of the United States Food Administration, appointed not elected. The other three were military Generals. Where does Mr. Trump fall into place? Did Washington have a previous office? I'm honestly not sure. Anyhow, I meant career politician. There have been presidents who got elected after oneish term in whatever prior office they were in. Washington was a delegate of the Continental Congress from Virginia. Then Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army before being elected President.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 18, 2016 9:37:07 GMT
From a British POV the major problem with Trump is that for some unknown reason he appears to want a scrap with China. And its not too much of a stretch that he'll want a fight with the Soviets (yes the Soviets. Putin has done almost everything bar renaming Russia). I dont think in that situation the "Special Relationship" would hold up to much scrutiny. China are THE current strong economy. We all know that. I dont get what his problem is there. Although it may be his several bankruptcies. And if we leave Russia to be Russia they'll have glasnost sooner or later. As for Hillary. Im not a dog so cant hear what shes screeching. However the US have a choice. Rock or Hard Place. Devil or Deep Blue Sea. Dumb or Dumber. He'll use the South China Sea dispute as a flashpoint, I can see it coming. Next thing you know there's gonna be a tactical nuclear warhead dropped on the Scarborough Shoal. Somehow I don't think he wants to fight Russia, it seems he wants to get friendly with Putin. I don't know what his views are on North Korea, but I do know that North Korea endorsed Donald Trump as presidential candidate, so that says a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 13:19:37 GMT
From a British POV the major problem with Trump is that for some unknown reason he appears to want a scrap with China. And its not too much of a stretch that he'll want a fight with the Soviets (yes the Soviets. Putin has done almost everything bar renaming Russia). I dont think in that situation the "Special Relationship" would hold up to much scrutiny. China are THE current strong economy. We all know that. I dont get what his problem is there. Although it may be his several bankruptcies. And if we leave Russia to be Russia they'll have glasnost sooner or later. As for Hillary. Im not a dog so cant hear what shes screeching. However the US have a choice. Rock or Hard Place. Devil or Deep Blue Sea. Dumb or Dumber. He'll use the South China Sea dispute as a flashpoint, I can see it coming. Next thing you know there's gonna be a tactical nuclear warhead dropped on the Scarborough Shoal. Somehow I don't think he wants to fight Russia, it seems he wants to get friendly with Putin. I don't know what his views are on North Korea, but I do know that North Korea endorsed Donald Trump as presidential candidate, so that says a lot. Meanwhile not only does the father of the Orlando shooter endorse Hillary he gets to stand behind her on stage. That's right the anti-gay, anti-woman, pro-Taliban, father of the biggest mass shooter in American history gets to stand right behind Hillary Clinton while she gives a stump speech.
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Aug 18, 2016 16:15:59 GMT
The thing with Trump is that both parties will shut down his crazy ideas and impeach him if he steps out if line. Billary however has an open doorway to usher in her tyrannical unconstitutional diabolical bullshit with very little resistance particularly after choosing the next SCJs
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