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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 17, 2016 23:32:07 GMT
Would it still be bad if 90% of the population were Hispanic people who had emigrated from Mexico legally? Because the predominance of Hispanic culture in an area seems to be a rather odd thing to dislike about immigrants. You are nitpicking what I'm saying. Just forget Hispanic for a moment. The stores that were displaced by the flood of illegal aliens were family owned businesses that catered to a well payed middle class. The stores that replaced them catered to a low wage clientele (pay day loans, pawn shops, dollar stores, etc). Unfortunately this change also brought about an increase in crime and a lowering of property values. The middle class people that could left (including me). This was a direct result of unfettered illegal immigration. I'm not nitpicking what you're saying. Increase in crime and lowering of property values are all perfectly valid and I agree with you. Not so with "it's all Mexican now".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 23:35:56 GMT
I'm fine with regulated legal immigration. Illegal immigration should not be tolerated.
If I were in charge I would build a wall on the southern border. I would also levy large fines against any employer who is caught employing illegal immigrants.
I would take away the reason people enter this country. Deportation would not be necessary because the vast majority would leave on their own when the job market dried up.
This would have the added benefit of forcing employers to pay a decent wage to American workers in place of the slave wages they were paying illegally. This would make for more Americans in the work force and overall better living conditions for all Americans.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 17, 2016 23:39:08 GMT
I'm fine with regulated legal immigration. Illegal immigration should not be tolerated. If I were in charge I would build a wall on the southern border. I would also levy large fines against any employer who is caught employing illegal immigrants. I would take away the reason people enter this country. Deportation would not be necessary because the vast majority would leave on their own when the job market dried up. This would have the added benefit of forcing employers to pay a decent wage to American workers in place of the slave wages they were paying illegally. This would make for more Americans in the work force and overall better living conditions for all Americans. I agree on all counts apart from the wall.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 23:43:00 GMT
I'm fine with regulated legal immigration. Illegal immigration should not be tolerated. If I were in charge I would build a wall on the southern border. I would also levy large fines against any employer who is caught employing illegal immigrants. I would take away the reason people enter this country. Deportation would not be necessary because the vast majority would leave on their own when the job market dried up. This would have the added benefit of forcing employers to pay a decent wage to American workers in place of the slave wages they were paying illegally. This would make for more Americans in the work force and overall better living conditions for all Americans. I agree on all counts apart from the wall. Why? Would you want a fence around your house? Do you lock your door?
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 17, 2016 23:45:55 GMT
I agree on all counts apart from the wall. Why? Would you want a fence around your house? Do you lock your door? No, I don't particularly want a fence round my house. I've got a brick wall about two foot high though. And yes of course I lock my day.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 23:49:24 GMT
Why? Would you want a fence around your house? Do you lock your door? No, I don't particularly want a fence round my house. I've got a brick wall about two foot high though. And yes of course I lock my day. If you had an issue with people repeatedly trespassing into your yard would you maybe consider a wall then? Especially if they stated leaving trash and causing damage?
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 17, 2016 23:51:15 GMT
No, I don't particularly want a fence round my house. I've got a brick wall about two foot high though. And yes of course I lock my day. If you had an issue with people repeatedly trespassing into your yard would you maybe consider a wall then? Especially if they stated leaving trash and causing damage? No, I don't live in that kind of area, it wouldn't happen.
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Post by "statistically insignificant" on Aug 17, 2016 23:58:42 GMT
I'm not a Hillary fan by any stretch. Bern baby Bern!! But I'm curious why she can't be trusted? The GOP has spent MILLIONS to find her guilty of something, anything. And what have they found? Zip. Nothing. So to use that as a reason why she is the lesser choice boggles my mind.
On the other hand, when has the REALITY STAR/REAL STATE TYCOON ever done anything to deserve to be our president? What are his qualifications? MONEY? What previous political office has he held? I know he speaks in a 5th grade dialogue to make it easier for the bumpkins to understand. And he really doesn't say anything important just blabs useless junk those bumpkins want to hear. Again, why is he qualified?
I don't know which side to be more ashamed of. The ones who voted Trump in? Or the ones who DIDN'T vote Bernie in?
I'm pretty sure if you ask for a paper ballot you can still write in a vote. That's my plan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 23:59:37 GMT
If you had an issue with people repeatedly trespassing into your yard would you maybe consider a wall then? Especially if they stated leaving trash and causing damage? No, I don't live in that kind of area, it wouldn't happen. Yeah, I didn't think I did either.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 18, 2016 0:09:48 GMT
I'm not a Hillary fan by any stretch. Bern baby Bern!! But I'm curious why she can't be trusted? The GOP has spent MILLIONS to find her guilty of something, anything. And what have they found? Zip. Nothing. So to use that as a reason why she is the lesser choice boggles my mind. On the other hand, when has the REALITY STAR/REAL STATE TYCOON ever done anything to deserve to be our president? What are his qualifications? MONEY? What previous political office has he held? I know he speaks in a 5th grade dialogue to make it easier for the bumpkins to understand. And he really doesn't say anything important just blabs useless junk those bumpkins want to hear. Again, why is he qualified? I don't know which side to be more ashamed of. The ones who voted Trump in? Or the ones who DIDN'T vote Bernie in? I'm pretty sure if you ask for a paper ballot you can still write in a vote. That's my plan. This is pretty much my view on the whole sorry affair, but as far as I can tell a lot of people just seem hell bent on being convinced that she's the antichrist and is secretly plotting with Iran and ISIS and every other evil in the world to bring down civilisation. Meanwhile Trump wants to ban an entire religion from entering the US, is endorsed by North Korea and wants to essentially destroy relations with NATO and countries in Asia and the Pacific. He seems to me to be a bit of an isolationist. He's got this "fuck every other country, let's not bother with their affairs, we are above the happenings of Europe, the Middle East and Asia". And we all know where that got America between 1900 and 1940 don't we? Distanced from the rest of the world and requiring the evils of the world to walk right up to the US and kick it in the bollocks before it did anything (actually took Hitler to declare war before it got involved in Europe, god knows what they'd have done if he didn't). Left the rest of the world bloodied and crippled before deciding to do something. Never there to help confront evil and aggression at its beginning, ignoring the developments of situations overseas until something big had gone off, always waiting for the fight to drag on a bit, testing the waters before it jumped in, working out whether or not it was something it could win and not something it should win. After the war it looks like they're too eager to make right the mistakes of the early century jumping in too early and going looking for the wrong evil. TL;DR Trump's an ass he'll cripple the international military situation. Don't take that as an anti-American rant, I'm just voicing my intense dislike of the isolationism that was pursued by America in the first half of the 20th century.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 0:11:36 GMT
I'm not a Hillary fan by any stretch. Bern baby Bern!! But I'm curious why she can't be trusted? The GOP has spent MILLIONS to find her guilty of something, anything. And what have they found? Zip. Nothing. So to use that as a reason why she is the lesser choice boggles my mind. On the other hand, when has the REALITY STAR/REAL STATE TYCOON ever done anything to deserve to be our president? What are his qualifications? MONEY? What previous political office has he held? I know he speaks in a 5th grade dialogue to make it easier for the bumpkins to understand. And he really doesn't say anything important just blabs useless junk those bumpkins want to hear. Again, why is he qualified? I don't know which side to be more ashamed of. The ones who voted Trump in? Or the ones who DIDN'T vote Bernie in? I'm pretty sure if you ask for a paper ballot you can still write in a vote. That's my plan. To me the issue of the email server is all I need. Her intent of setting up a private server was to bypass any freedom of information act inquires. That on its own makes me not trust her. She is an employee of the government, in other words she works for us. What the hell gives her the right to try and hide what she does from us? She also lied to our face about a YouTube video being the cause of the Benghazi attacks. Then there is the issue of selling out an American uranium mine to the Russians. Plain and simple I do not trust her. I'm not a fan of Trump either. I think what appeals to me most is the fact that he isn't a career politician. Those assholes are the ones who got us in this mess. If the Dems and Republicans both hate him then he can't be all bad. If he can go in there and upset the Washington cartel I'm fine with it. The biggest issue for me is the Supreme Court Justices. It's a gamble but I feel that Trump is far more likely to put Constitutional Justices on the court than Clinton is. Plus I really don't want to hear that voice of hers for 4 to 8 years.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 18, 2016 0:11:49 GMT
No, I don't live in that kind of area, it wouldn't happen. Yeah, I didn't think I did either. Building a wall is a good solution to people littering in your front garden. It's a pretty pointless thing to stop people entering the country illegally. If they want in because of how shit Mexico is, they're gonna find a way in. People aren't going to be hell bent on littering in your front garden.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 0:16:34 GMT
Seriously. Who wants to hear this shit for 4 to 8 years?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 0:17:31 GMT
Yeah, I didn't think I did either. Building a wall is a good solution to people littering in your front garden. It's a pretty pointless thing to stop people entering the country illegally. If they want in because of how shit Mexico is, they're gonna find a way in. People aren't going to be hell bent on littering in your front garden. A wall is a deterrent. If it cuts it back by just 20% it'll be worth it.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 18, 2016 0:21:39 GMT
I'm not a Hillary fan by any stretch. Bern baby Bern!! But I'm curious why she can't be trusted? The GOP has spent MILLIONS to find her guilty of something, anything. And what have they found? Zip. Nothing. So to use that as a reason why she is the lesser choice boggles my mind. On the other hand, when has the REALITY STAR/REAL STATE TYCOON ever done anything to deserve to be our president? What are his qualifications? MONEY? What previous political office has he held? I know he speaks in a 5th grade dialogue to make it easier for the bumpkins to understand. And he really doesn't say anything important just blabs useless junk those bumpkins want to hear. Again, why is he qualified? I don't know which side to be more ashamed of. The ones who voted Trump in? Or the ones who DIDN'T vote Bernie in? I'm pretty sure if you ask for a paper ballot you can still write in a vote. That's my plan. To me the issue of the email server is all I need. Her intent of setting up a private server was to bypass any freedom of information act inquires. That on its own makes me not trust her. She is an employee of the government, in other words she works for us. What the hell gives her the right to try and hide what she does from us? She also lied to our face about a YouTube video being the cause of the Benghazi attacks. Then there is the issue of selling out an American uranium mine to the Russians. Plain and simple I do not trust her. I'm not a fan of Trump either. I think what appeals to me most is the fact that he isn't a career politician. Those assholes are the ones who got us in this mess. If the Dems and Republicans both hate him then he can't be all bad. If he can go in there and upset the Washington cartel I'm fine with it. The biggest issue for me is the Supreme Court Justices. It's a gamble but I feel that Trump is far more likely to put Constitutional Justices on the court than Clinton is. Plus I really don't want to hear that voice of hers for 4 to 8 years. This I cannot understand. It's this unconditional hatred of politicians that somehow now dominates the political scene these days. "All they want to do is fuck us over", "they're only in it for themselves". Particularly with America, there's this overwhelming idea that the establishment is conspiring against you, that the country is constantly in a state of irredeemable corruption. Maybe it is corrupt, maybe some are in it for themselves, but no one stops to consider that maybe there's some politicians who want to do good. And even if they are only in it for themselves, they at least know what they're doing. They're able to adequately manage situations because they know what to do, they can tactfully hold negotiations. Trump's a firebrand who is all mouth and no brain. He isn't experienced with politics. He is, however experienced with business, but not in a good way, he is nowhere near an ethical businessman. His conduct in business legal affairs is far from ethical, it shows he doesn't give a fuck about the little man as much as you might think politicians don't as well. He doesn't really care about the people, he manipulates people to get his way and push his crazy ideas, which are borne from his practically constant "successes" in life. It looks like he's always been so "successful" in life, he's always come out on top, he's great at making money, and there's this mentality of "why can't Donald J. Trump do politics too?" A sort of "I might as well give it a go, I'm good at other stuff so why not?" because Donald J. Trump has always done well for himself, he thinks he can apply that to politics. That thinking gets you nowhere. It's not considered, it's not tactful, it's not intelligent. It's him thinking that because he's successful with everything else in his life, he might as well give politics a whirl "'cos why fucking not?"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 0:23:19 GMT
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 18, 2016 0:25:04 GMT
Seriously. Who wants to hear this shit for 4 to 8 years? It's better than Trump's unguided waffling. He's like an easily distracted hyperactive child. "I'm shouting about Mexicans!" "Now I'm gonna talk about that baby in the audience down there". "Okay, back to the, what was it? Oh yeah, the Muslims, that was it". "Oh, look at that man's red hat, let's talk about that". It's just spontaneous crap, it's like the clickbait title of political dialogue.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 0:30:12 GMT
To me the issue of the email server is all I need. Her intent of setting up a private server was to bypass any freedom of information act inquires. That on its own makes me not trust her. She is an employee of the government, in other words she works for us. What the hell gives her the right to try and hide what she does from us? She also lied to our face about a YouTube video being the cause of the Benghazi attacks. Then there is the issue of selling out an American uranium mine to the Russians. Plain and simple I do not trust her. I'm not a fan of Trump either. I think what appeals to me most is the fact that he isn't a career politician. Those assholes are the ones who got us in this mess. If the Dems and Republicans both hate him then he can't be all bad. If he can go in there and upset the Washington cartel I'm fine with it. The biggest issue for me is the Supreme Court Justices. It's a gamble but I feel that Trump is far more likely to put Constitutional Justices on the court than Clinton is. Plus I really don't want to hear that voice of hers for 4 to 8 years. This I cannot understand. It's this unconditional hatred of politicians that somehow now dominates the political scene these days. "All they want to do is fuck us over", "they're only in it for themselves". Particularly with America, there's this overwhelming idea that the establishment is conspiring against you, that the country is constantly in a state of irredeemable corruption. Maybe it is corrupt, maybe some are in it for themselves, but no one stops to consider that maybe there's some politicians who want to do good. And even if they are only in it for themselves, they at least know what they're doing. They're able to adequately manage situations because they know what to do, they can tactfully hold negotiations. Trump's a firebrand who is all mouth and no brain. He isn't experienced with politics. He is, however experienced with business, but not in a good way, he is nowhere near an ethical businessman. His conduct in business legal affairs is far from ethical, it shows he doesn't give a fuck about the little man as much as you might think politicians don't as well. He doesn't really care about the people, he manipulates people to get his way and push his crazy ideas, which are borne from his practically constant "successes" in life. It looks like he's always been so "successful" in life, he's always come out on top, he's great at making money, and there's this mentality of "why can't Donald J. Trump do politics too?" A sort of "I might as well give it a go, I'm good at other stuff so why not?" because Donald J. Trump has always done well for himself, he thinks he can apply that to politics. That thinking gets you nowhere. It's not considered, it's not tactful, it's not intelligent. It's him thinking that because he's successful with everything else in his life, he might as well give politics a whirl "'cos why fucking not?" The average congressman in the states makes about $174,000 a year... But many of them leave office as millionaires many times over. Not all but some. These ass holes are selling us out and deserve every once of vitriol that they get. Are the all bad? Probably not. Guilt by association. If you hang out with whores all day someone might start thinking you're a whore. I'm not going to defend Trump because I'm not a fan. At this point I have a choice between two shit choices. I'm just going with the person I find least shitty.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 0:31:30 GMT
Seriously. Who wants to hear this shit for 4 to 8 years? It's better than Trump's unguided waffling. He's like an easily distracted hyperactive child. "I'm shouting about Mexicans!" "Now I'm gonna talk about that baby in the audience down there". "Okay, back to the, what was it? Oh yeah, the Muslims, that was it". "Oh, look at that man's red hat, let's talk about that". It's just spontaneous crap, it's like the clickbait title of political dialogue. Have you listened to a whole Trump speech? I found the one he gave yesterday was actually fairly well delivered and on point.
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Post by Skankhunt42 on Aug 18, 2016 0:36:11 GMT
First off any citizen can open a business to cater to a particular clientele. If you see a flood of illegal aliens entering your town you'll either adapt your business to accommodate them or close up shop. Here is what happened where I lived.. We had a large illegal immigration problem in the 1980's. The solution to this problem was to grant the illegal immigrants that were here illegally amnesty (poof, now they are citizens). In addition to this amnesty we were supposed to get additional border security (that never happened). Well the citizens of other countries saw this and started illegally entering the country in hopes that we would grant another amnesty. Now the original crop of illegal immigrants who are now citizens have built businesses that cater to the new crop if illegal aliens. I get that illegal immigration is bad and all, but might I ask, what exactly is the issue with all the shops being Hispanic-themed and with signs written in Spanish and all the adverts being in Spanish? America doesn't have an official language, it is after all the "land of the free" with its manifest destiny etcetera, so what exactly is the problem with an area of the US being predominantly Hispanic? I get that illegal immigration is bad, but that shouldn't be a bad point of it or an argument against it. "Area that was White Caucasian is now Hispanic" shouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Just to add a bit of background info, the US doesn't have an official language, but California certainly does, and it's English.
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