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Post by Snorelacks on Nov 13, 2016 16:08:54 GMT
I fail to see how any respectable person would stay married to a man who did all those things while he was president and then act like she's offended by the same behavior in someone who has supposedly done the same thing. Right! No married couples EVER work out their problems. Are you kidding me? Because she took her wedding vows seriously, she is the one with no value's? OK, I get them trying to work out the extramarital affairs when he was a governor in Arkansas (there were many of them), but how long does any respectable person "try to work it out"? Sexual assault settlement, White House intern, Energizer Bunny, multiple flights to Pedophile Island with a convicted pedophile?
How about just being honest with each other and admit that she stayed married in the interest of achieving more power and wealth?
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Nov 13, 2016 16:09:16 GMT
I fail to see how a man that brags about groping women and has done all those other things I've already mentioned is a matter of opinion. I fail to see how any respectable person would stay married to a man who did all those things while he was president and then act like she's offended by the same behavior in someone who has supposedly done the same thing. From what I understand all Bill Clinton did was have an affair. Trump groped random women and walked in on a naked child.
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Post by Snorelacks on Nov 13, 2016 17:36:50 GMT
I fail to see how any respectable person would stay married to a man who did all those things while he was president and then act like she's offended by the same behavior in someone who has supposedly done the same thing. From what I understand all Bill Clinton did was have an affair. Trump groped random women and walked in on a naked child. Bill Clinton has been accused of rape and sexual harassment by at least 10 women and the total allegations including affairs is at least 18 women.
Additionally, there are multiple flights between 2002-2005 he made on the "Lolita Express" (because of all the prostitutes he would fly to his island on his plane) to billionaire convicted pedophile (spent 13 months in federal prison) Jeffrey Epstein's private island.
Here's a nice little list:
The list of women that stepped forward and publicly complained about the former President are: •Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape •Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape •Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation •Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her" •Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats •Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault •22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault •Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault •Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations •Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault •Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault •1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact •1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers •Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault •Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault •Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault •Sally Perdue - post incident threats •Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters •Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Nov 13, 2016 18:01:48 GMT
From what I understand all Bill Clinton did was have an affair. Trump groped random women and walked in on a naked child. Bill Clinton has been accused of rape and sexual harassment by at least 10 women and the total allegations including affairs is at least 18 women.
Additionally, there are multiple flights between 2002-2005 he made on the "Lolita Express" (because of all the prostitutes he would fly to his island on his plane) to billionaire convicted pedophile (spent 13 months in federal prison) Jeffrey Epstein's private island.
Here's a nice little list:
The list of women that stepped forward and publicly complained about the former President are: •Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape •Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape •Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation •Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her" •Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats •Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault •22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault •Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault •Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations •Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault •Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault •1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact •1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers •Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault •Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault •Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault •Sally Perdue - post incident threats •Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters •Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned
Still doesn't mitigate Trump, does it? And Trump has the added "features" of being racist and xenophobic.
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Post by Snorelacks on Nov 13, 2016 18:23:49 GMT
Bill Clinton has been accused of rape and sexual harassment by at least 10 women and the total allegations including affairs is at least 18 women.
Additionally, there are multiple flights between 2002-2005 he made on the "Lolita Express" (because of all the prostitutes he would fly to his island on his plane) to billionaire convicted pedophile (spent 13 months in federal prison) Jeffrey Epstein's private island.
Here's a nice little list:
The list of women that stepped forward and publicly complained about the former President are: •Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape •Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape •Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation •Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her" •Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats •Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault •22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault •Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault •Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations •Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault •Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault •1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact •1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers •Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault •Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault •Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault •Sally Perdue - post incident threats •Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters •Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned
Still doesn't mitigate Trump, does it? And Trump has the added "features" of being racist and xenophobic. You're comment is somewhat of a strawman argument. You claim you've only ever heard of Bill Clinton having an affair, and I then provide you with ample evidence of him having done and been involved in far worse. You then attempt to redirect back to Trump on things we've already litigated in this thread.
I've never once excused the nasty things that Trump has said. My biggest issue is the lack of contrast many people are willing to look at, particularly the contrast that has been hammered by a media admittedly hell-bent on driving their own liberal narrative (to the point where the NYTs just apologized and said they'd try to report more "honestly" going forward), dropping almost all form of objectivity.
I love civil debate; however, this is my last post on this subject.
SLB...please don't take this as patronizing. You're a very intelligent young man with an extremely bright future and I enjoy your posts and viewpoints, but I think that you'll appreciate pragmatism a lot more once you have a broader perspective of the world that involves experience beyond idealism a clear cut black and white world.
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Post by Shhhhh on Nov 14, 2016 9:46:23 GMT
I fail to see how any respectable person would stay married to a man who did all those things while he was president and then act like she's offended by the same behavior in someone who has supposedly done the same thing. From what I understand all Bill Clinton did was have an affair. Trump groped random women and walked in on a naked child. IIRC Bill was named in the lawsuit with Jeffery Epstein in addition to what snorelacks stated,but TBf trump also may be named in it. If the accusations are true both need the same punishment.
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Post by Cap'nKaitoGhost on Nov 14, 2016 13:15:05 GMT
Not happy that Trump won, but I am ecstatic that Hillary lost.
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Post by Skankhunt42 on Nov 15, 2016 3:45:04 GMT
Not happy that Trump won, but I am ecstatic that Hillary lost. Exactly
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Post by Shhhhh on Nov 16, 2016 9:57:21 GMT
No offense to women
American politics in terms a woman can understand
Quite clear...and concise...
One buzz word in today's business world is MARKETING. However, people often ask for a simple explanation of "Marketing."
Well, here it is:
* You're a woman and you see a handsome guy at a party. You go up to him and say, "I'm fantastic in bed."
That's Direct Marketing. +++===
* You're at a party with a bunch of friends and see a handsome guy. One of your friends goes up to him and, pointing at you, says, "She's fantastic in bed."
That's Advertising. +++===
* You see a handsome guy at a party. You go up to him and get his telephone number. The next day you call and say, "Hi, I'm fantastic in bed."
That's Telemarketing. +++===
* You see a guy at a party; you straighten your dress. You walk up to him and pour him a drink. You say, "May I?" and reach up to straighten his tie, brushing your breast lightly against his arm, and then say, "By the way, I'm fantastic in bed."
That's Public Relations. +++===
* You're at a party and see a handsome guy. He walks up to you and says, "I hear you're fantastic in bed."
That's Brand Recognition. +++===
*You're at a party and see a handsome guy. He fancies you, but you talk him into going home with your friend.
That's a Sales Rep. +++===
* Your friend can't satisfy him so he calls you.
That's Tech Support. +++===
* You're on your way to a party when you realize that there could be handsome men in all these houses you're passing, so you climb onto the roof of one situated towards the center and shout at the top of your lungs, "I'm fantastic in bed!"
That's Facebook. +++===
* You are at a party; this attractive older man walks up to you and grabs your ass.
That's Donald Trump.
* You didn't mind it, but twenty years later your attorney decides you were offended and you are awarded a settlement.
That's America !
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Post by Dado on Nov 16, 2016 13:15:45 GMT
No offense to women American politics in terms a woman can understand Quite clear...and concise... One buzz word in today's business world is MARKETING. However, people often ask for a simple explanation of "Marketing." Well, here it is: * You're a woman and you see a handsome guy at a party. You go up to him and say, "I'm fantastic in bed." That's Direct Marketing. +++=== * You're at a party with a bunch of friends and see a handsome guy. One of your friends goes up to him and, pointing at you, says, "She's fantastic in bed." That's Advertising. +++=== * You see a handsome guy at a party. You go up to him and get his telephone number. The next day you call and say, "Hi, I'm fantastic in bed." That's Telemarketing. +++=== * You see a guy at a party; you straighten your dress. You walk up to him and pour him a drink. You say, "May I?" and reach up to straighten his tie, brushing your breast lightly against his arm, and then say, "By the way, I'm fantastic in bed." That's Public Relations. +++=== * You're at a party and see a handsome guy. He walks up to you and says, "I hear you're fantastic in bed." That's Brand Recognition. +++=== *You're at a party and see a handsome guy. He fancies you, but you talk him into going home with your friend. That's a Sales Rep. +++=== * Your friend can't satisfy him so he calls you. That's Tech Support. +++=== * You're on your way to a party when you realize that there could be handsome men in all these houses you're passing, so you climb onto the roof of one situated towards the center and shout at the top of your lungs, "I'm fantastic in bed!" That's Facebook. +++=== * You are at a party; this attractive older man walks up to you and grabs your ass. That's Donald Trump. * You didn't mind it, but twenty years later your attorney decides you were offended and you are awarded a settlement. That's America ! A piss poor adaptation of an old joke.
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Post by Dado on Nov 16, 2016 13:37:19 GMT
If the Dems on the forum can put away their crying towels and put their cuddle puppies outside for a few minutes there's a British comedian that has a few words to share with you.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Nov 16, 2016 15:01:34 GMT
We have a comedian here who phrased the situation rather well I think:
"You're not an idiot for voting for Trump, but you voted for an idiot."
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Post by Dado on Nov 16, 2016 15:32:21 GMT
We have a comedian here who phrased the situation rather well I think: "You're not an idiot for voting for Trump, but you voted for an idiot." Time will tell.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Nov 16, 2016 15:36:42 GMT
We have a comedian here who phrased the situation rather well I think: "You're not an idiot for voting for Trump, but you voted for an idiot." Time will tell. Either way he's never really come across as a particularly bright bloke.
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Post by Dado on Nov 16, 2016 15:48:17 GMT
Either way he's never really come across as a particularly bright bloke. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one. Yours might carry a lot more weight if, a: you lived in America and b: you were old enough to vote.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Nov 16, 2016 15:58:33 GMT
Either way he's never really come across as a particularly bright bloke. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one. Yours might carry a lot more weight if, a: you lived in America and b: you were old enough to vote. Any bugger can watch what he says and work out whether or not he's a knob. A few months makes no difference to that.
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Post by JesterUSMC on Nov 16, 2016 16:06:35 GMT
Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one. Yours might carry a lot more weight if, a: you lived in America and b: you were old enough to vote. Any bugger can watch what he says and work out whether or not he's a knob. A few months makes no difference to that. A knob that's worth nearly 4 billion dollars and will be the next President of the United States.
I'd say he's doing fairly well.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Nov 16, 2016 16:15:52 GMT
Any bugger can watch what he says and work out whether or not he's a knob. A few months makes no difference to that. A knob that's worth nearly 4 billion dollars and will be the next President of the United States.
I'd say he's doing fairly well.
I didn't say he wasn't doing well. I just said he's a knob.
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Post by JesterUSMC on Nov 16, 2016 16:18:11 GMT
Either way he's never really come across as a particularly bright bloke. I'd think it takes a little intelligence to do what I mentioned above.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Nov 16, 2016 16:27:04 GMT
Either way he's never really come across as a particularly bright bloke. I'd think it takes a little intelligence to do what I mentioned above. "Bright" here meaning seeking to appeal to a wide range of people, rather than what he did which was piss off almost every group possible. Plus the fact he thought (or at least he said) he could get Mexico to pay for a wall to be built. Perhaps rather than saying he wasn't bright I should have said he lacks tact. He definitely lacks tact.
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