ZER01025
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Post by ZER01025 on Mar 31, 2016 17:23:49 GMT
I understand the balance in this game is alittle fucked up, and I want it to stay that way. Remember how OP the KV-1S was before they nerfed (balanced) it? How about the old Chaffee? Remember the T49 before it was a light tank? Yeah they expanded lines but they also balanced things alittle when they changed it. If you love how OP your T18 is, stop screaming for balance. If you love how OP your Matilda is, stop screaming for balance. Same with the dang shermans and tigers. And tier 10? Tier 10 seems just as balanced as all the other classes. If TDs are so OP then why are there still other tanks in tier 10? Lets compare WOT balance to sports for a sec. I have yet to see a sports caster scream about how OP Payton Manning was, and how he should have had his OP arm nerfed. Or how about Nascar? Thats as balanced (and boring) as it gets, but theres still OP drivers out there. Some never even make the top 10, you never see them crying about balance. Then again life has always been out of balance for me, becuase I'm visually and hearing impaired. Instead of complaining about how unfair it was, I learned to make the best with what I have. So enjoy this game like it is or go play something more "balanced".
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heg82
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Post by heg82 on Mar 31, 2016 18:11:08 GMT
Disagreeing with exactly everything in the op, not enough time for a full reply so that will have to wait.
And comparing with sports? Really?
Don't really care about Handegg but it's not like Payton Manning use better equipment and a noob friendly super ball that some other players (tanks) can't use.
A better player is a better player and a OP tank is a OP tank. That's two different things.
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RagingxMarmoset
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Post by RagingxMarmoset on Mar 31, 2016 18:18:01 GMT
Those analogies don't work. WG has the tools to rebalance the game, they just choose not to use them.
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ZER01025
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Post by ZER01025 on Mar 31, 2016 21:42:26 GMT
Okay I used sports becuase sports are games, maybe a physical type of game but a but still a game. The player is better becuase he knows the game, the limits of the rules and physics, and has more experience. Just like a player can make a tank OP. And what I was trying to show with my examples,was that no matter how much you try to balance it out, it will always come out unfair. Its just how life is. Balance it as much as you want, its still gonna take a big wet bite out of your ass when you aren't looking.
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Post by Cap'nKaitoGhost on Apr 1, 2016 2:06:44 GMT
When a bad player can take a tank like the Waffle, YOLO out and do 3k damage before dying, then that tank is broken.
Have you played a Tier X match lately? It's already half TDs, with the occasional El Hundo or medium platoon.
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heg82
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Post by heg82 on Apr 1, 2016 5:47:42 GMT
Okay I used sports becuase sports are games, maybe a physical type of game but a but still a game. The player is better becuase he knows the game, the limits of the rules and physics, and has more experience. Just like a player can make a tank OP. And what I was trying to show with my examples,was that no matter how much you try to balance it out, it will always come out unfair. Its just how life is. Balance it as much as you want, its still gonna take a big wet bite out of your ass when you aren't looking. Yes it will never be 100% balanced, but as it is now WGA is not even trying. With that view nothing would ever get better. Again, there's a difference between player skill and tank balance, when a really useless player can yolo around the corner or sit at the edge of the map and maybe remove the best player from the other team in less than 10 seconds, before failing like usual, and there's no way to avoid it because of balance issues. It gets even more interesting when a whole platoon of good players uses OP tanks, that's when a game is decided before it starts. A good player is good and a bad player is bad, tanks should not boost either. Some tanks are just blatantly OP and it's very easy to see that. |
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Post by Atom Priest on Apr 2, 2016 6:39:30 GMT
We'll never have balance. Some tanks will always be superior simply by their real world design and the way they are implemented. The only exception is arty which of course takes a lot of skill and knowledge to excel in; other wise it is fairly balanced by the number of scrubs that drive it.
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Post by Beast on Apr 2, 2016 14:37:22 GMT
Lelno. I don't think you play high tiers so I don't think you would understand why we need balance.
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Post by KKNDxWarhammer on Apr 2, 2016 21:10:11 GMT
Zero makes a good point. This game will never be balanced because of the skill level of most players is crap. Everyone likes to complain about being one shot by a 183 or being two shot at high tiers. It sucks that someone with a low skill cap can do that to you, but you can killed by one or two shots from tier II and up.
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El Materdor43
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Post by El Materdor43 on May 28, 2016 12:25:21 GMT
This is a great time to revive this one. In my opinion, WG has 0 interest in balancing this game, particularly at higher tiers. The issue for me is TD's at tier X. They continually outspot me, regardless of map or terrain. I have had my fill of it. I posted a thread about it on the other forum and I used the title Obj 268 needs a buff. Because how can any TD survive with only 800 alpha per shot.
I have spent my last last money on this game until TD's at tier X get the nerf bat to view range and alpha
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Post by Racist Snowflake on May 28, 2016 20:53:42 GMT
m53/55 and matilda haven't seen the nerf bat in some time
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