Corporal Derpy
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Post by Corporal Derpy on Mar 29, 2016 13:07:17 GMT
Don't get the hate for the Panther/M10. It's a good tank, you just can't do well in it if you're shit at the game. I believe I was one, and that someone else said the same thing. As with your other comment. 'I can understand why people think it's bad, I mean it's not easy to use or do well in but it's potentially really good. ' This is probably the biggest issue with it, the hull armour is lacklustre, hell it's even got a weakspot there regardless and even the turret armour seems to be largely unreliable as the bots in the live-fire were just casually going through the mantlet. It's view range is lower than most of if not all the other VII Mediums, and then you get to the gun. Why the 30.02(M) a tier lower has a faster reload and thus better DPM is beyond me. With all this in mind it's just a woeful VII Premium, where others like the 122-44, E-25 and T23E3 exist. I also believe I did mention the Tiger P as opposed to the Tiger I, although not the 45 A vs a Tiger II, but it was on the shitbox so it probably didn't get seen.
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bluescrewdriver
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Post by bluescrewdriver on Mar 29, 2016 13:08:58 GMT
i have this tank and i will admit my stats in it are piss poor. im not shit at the game im avg to good if you take my last 2k games... but anyway yeah very rare i do well in this tank, but i struggle in most mid tier german meds, i have come top of the board in a game we won and got a 3rd class tanker badge so i think there are people that can make it work but not many of us are as good with german meds as we want to be or think we are. Personally I think there is an issue with mediums at tier 7 across the board, they are all pretty poor relative to the TD's and heavies of the same tier. I mean there isn't a tier 7 medium in the game I'd straight up call a good tank. But the Panther and Panther/M10 are probably the closest to it IMO. Some people will say the T20 but personally I think the inability for it to turn, lack or survivability and slow gun make it worse off as a medium tank. But yeah you need to have the medium tank playstyle down if you want to do well in any of the tier 7 mediums really. Patience, flanking, weakspots. Knowing what to do when to do it and where to do it basically. It's not easy but when you get it right, it goes really right i think all tanks at t4 and t7 have a huge dissadvantage when it comes to being mid or bottom tier. something like a panther or commet V's tier 9s is as stupid as a tier 4 covanator V's a kv2. thats the most broken part of the game for me, tier for tier i can kill any op tank in the game but seeing a load of 9 heavys when im t7 med makes me die a little bit inside.
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Post by No.1 Scandal fan on Mar 29, 2016 13:14:15 GMT
Don't get the hate for the Panther/M10. It's a good tank, you just can't do well in it if you're shit at the game. I believe I was one, and that someone else said the same thing. As with your other comment. 'I can understand why people think it's bad, I mean it's not easy to use or do well in but it's potentially really good. ' This is probably the biggest issue with it, the hull armour is lacklustre, hell it's even got a weakspot there regardless and even the turret armour seems to be largely unreliable as the bots in the live-fire were just casually going through the mantlet. It's view range is lower than most of if not all the other VII Mediums, and then you get to the gun. Why the 30.02(M) a tier lower has a faster reload and thus better DPM is beyond me. With all this in mind it's just a woeful VII Premium, where others like the 122-44, E-25 and T23E3 exist. I also believe I did mention the Tiger P as opposed to the Tiger I, although not the 45 A vs a Tiger II, but it was on the shitbox so it probably didn't get seen. The 3002m has a faster reload? wut. I swear that never used to be the case. That means it has a faster reload than the tech tree panther as well. Tiger P i can understand a little as it has that 200m frontal armour, but on the other had that is all it has over the Tiger I. VK45 makes no sense as it is worse in every way than the Tiger II except for the fact the mobility is only very slightly better since the Tiger II was buffed instead of significantly better.
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Corporal Derpy
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Post by Corporal Derpy on Mar 29, 2016 13:22:16 GMT
So as to not get a huge wall of quotes. 'The 3002m has a faster reload? wut. I swear that never used to be the case. That means it has a faster reload than the tech tree panther as well.
Tiger P i can understand a little as it has that 200m frontal armour, but on the other had that is all it has over the Tiger I. VK45 makes no sense as it is worse in every way than the Tiger II except for the fact the mobility is only very slightly better since the Tiger II was buffed instead of significantly better.'
Faster reload, similar gun performance although the Panther/M10 is probably better than it on the move, and better view range, even in gun depression they are only different by 1. If the tech tree Panther is using the L/70, it has a faster reload than both of them, otherwise it has that beautiful penetration and accuracy as opposed to the two of them.
So if DPM is supposed to be what sets the Panther/M10 apart, it loses out in that.
The 200mm is a bit understandable for the Tiger P, but even then it's like a 600 difference in DPM, 2 seconds reload time and even in aim time, so in a one on one the Tiger I will basically always win unless it's an idiot(granted idiots gravitate to that tank). 45 vs Tiger II is definitely even stupider, the one thing that it had against the Tiger II was mobility and now it doesn't even have that.
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