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Post by JesterUSMC on Mar 24, 2016 0:26:44 GMT
Muliplte citations of posters being banned for outright absurd reasons have been given to you.
It isn't our fault if you don't agree with them.
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Post by JesterUSMC on Mar 24, 2016 0:27:37 GMT
You don't bother me. I defended this site when you insulted it. You chose a more profoundly ironic way of doing so. Most reasonable people would disagree bt countering the argument, which is how we all got here in the first place. I can see that you considered this as some kind of meta forum justice. Were you trying to be ironic? No point countering people out to start shit for laughs.
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Post by Violet Viper x on Mar 24, 2016 0:31:59 GMT
FATAL ASSERTION, I thought we moved past this yesterday anyway. I don't understand why you're bringing it up again.
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Post by FATAL ASSERTION on Mar 24, 2016 0:35:53 GMT
You chose a more profoundly ironic way of doing so. Most reasonable people would disagree bt countering the argument, which is how we all got here in the first place. I can see that you considered this as some kind of meta forum justice. Were you trying to be ironic? No point countering people out to start shit for laughs. Seriously, what you did is the start shit for laughs route. This is completely against the spirit of this forum. All you demonstrated by reporting my post was that the other forum has rules, and when those rules get trampled on, people get warnings or more. What would prove the point of this thread would be showing me how I could get reported over nothing, not reporting me over hurt feeling whether you got offended on bahealf of aomeone else or not. I have an idea though. I settle on my original assessment of the culture here with you in position as a mod, you fail to change my mind, and we go on disagreeing with dignity. We can agree to disagree like that, right?
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Post by FATAL ASSERTION on Mar 24, 2016 0:37:36 GMT
FATAL ASSERTION , I thought we moved past this yesterday anyway. I don't understand why you're bringing it up again. I posted about it with a cool head today. It was totally on topic too. Jester responded. The whole conversation is here. If debate-like discussion is not acceptable here, just let me know.
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Post by JesterUSMC on Mar 24, 2016 0:40:42 GMT
What the fuck are you on about?
They started this forum to get away from the INCONSISTENT and ABSURD moderation (Examples provided multiple times already). You are choosing to not see the evidence provided because you already have a negative view of The Bunker that won't be changed.
You can think what you want about this forum, regardless of how incorrect it is, and go about your day.
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Post by JesterUSMC on Mar 24, 2016 0:41:53 GMT
FATAL ASSERTION , I thought we moved past this yesterday anyway. I don't understand why you're bringing it up again. I posted about it with a cool head today. It was totally on topic too. Jester responded. The whole conversation is here. If debate-like discussion is not acceptable here, just let me know. You seriously seem like you are absolutely itching to get moderated here so you can run back to the WoT forums to play the victim and make us out as hypocrites.
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Post by FATAL ASSERTION on Mar 24, 2016 0:44:13 GMT
Muliplte citations of posters being banned for outright absurd reasons have been given to you. It isn't our fault if you don't agree with them. That is all hearsay. I can tell a one sided story too, but a video documenting said story is propf. There is a big logic leap I am supposed to make in trusting these off the cuff non-citation based assertions. Big difference between our definitions of citations.
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Post by Cap'nKaitoGhost on Mar 24, 2016 0:44:48 GMT
I posted about it with a cool head today. It was totally on topic too. Jester responded. The whole conversation is here. If debate-like discussion is not acceptable here, just let me know. You seriously seem like you are absolutely itching to get moderated here so you can run back to the WoT forums to play the victim and make us out as hypocrites. That looks to be just about the sum of it.
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Post by Skankhunt42 on Mar 24, 2016 0:46:34 GMT
Yeah no, this isn't a troll forum. We're not going to gang up on you and get you banned. Relax If that's the case, a few of you have made what seem like strange claims here, yet there are no citations as proof, so we are left in the original stance where we don't agree. That's fine, but if you can't prove your assertion as true I don't believe them when my evidence suggest otherwise: if rules are obeyed there, bans are not issued. The rules here are so cloudy on the other hand, yet I seem to be dangerously close to violating them. It stinks. I posted a picture of mine earlier in the thread, so quit whining about "proof". Relax and enjoy your stay, don't come here to intentionally stir shit up.
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Post by JesterUSMC on Mar 24, 2016 0:49:09 GMT
Muliplte citations of posters being banned for outright absurd reasons have been given to you. It isn't our fault if you don't agree with them. That is all hearsay. I can tell a one sided story too, but a video documenting said story is propf. There is a big logic leap I am supposed to make in trusting these off the cuff non-citation based assertions. Big difference between our definitions of citations. Jesus Christ... I give up. You really are here to just start shit, get moderated and run back to the WoT forum to cry your little sob story about the big meanie hypocrite Bunker members.
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Post by Cap'nKaitoGhost on Mar 24, 2016 0:49:27 GMT
Muliplte citations of posters being banned for outright absurd reasons have been given to you. It isn't our fault if you don't agree with them. That is all hearsay. I can tell a one sided story too, but a video documenting said story is propf. There is a big logic leap I am supposed to make in trusting these off the cuff non-citation based assertions. Big difference between our definitions of citations. My first ever ban was 3 days over name and shaming myself, and asking for help with the stock M46 Patton grind. You can't call that hearsay. R3ST was banned for posting an IS-7 guide in General Discussion, when so many other guides and other specific topics get posted there all the time. You can't call that hearsay, either.
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Post by Violet Viper x on Mar 24, 2016 0:56:08 GMT
Look fatal, it seems like you're coming here to vent your annoyance of being moderated on the official forum. A lot of us are here because we're frustrated with the other forum, you don't seem to realise that you're almost proving why this forum was made. The only difference is, you seem to be taking it out on us, rather than understanding that it was the WG forum you were moderated on.
Now I'm really tired and I have a headache, so I'm going to go to sleep soon, feel free to carry on the conversation if you must, just be civil with each other about it please.
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Post by FATAL ASSERTION on Mar 24, 2016 1:13:10 GMT
I have no problem being civil.
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Post by vvmrgoodcatvv on Mar 24, 2016 1:31:26 GMT
Stop feeding it chaps. It has been pointed out that its trying so very hard to find a victim card. Its clear that's what this is about. We don't need to defend this forum, the actions over the longer term will do that.
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Post by FATAL ASSERTION on Mar 24, 2016 1:53:49 GMT
That is all hearsay. I can tell a one sided story too, but a video documenting said story is propf. There is a big logic leap I am supposed to make in trusting these off the cuff non-citation based assertions. Big difference between our definitions of citations. My first ever ban was 3 days over name and shaming myself, and asking for help with the stock M46 Patton grind. You can't call that hearsay. R3ST was banned for posting an IS-7 guide in General Discussion, when so many other guides and other specific topics get posted there all the time. You can't call that hearsay, either. So I looked at that one, and you totally violated the rules. We talked about it in the shotbox where you basically conceded this point. Using the proverbial "you" and "we" from here on) Does someone have a moderated post that doesn't violate the rules? Actually forget it. I am done. We aren't going to agree in general about the job the mods there do. edit: I think with the amount of rules in that forum, they just need to uphold the rules when a report hits them and clear reports before they go back to probably processing support tickets or whatever else. Maybe it's an endless pile of reports on posts in as many languages as the moderator understands. I don't know. It's basic, they don't write the rules. The rules over there kind of do suck, I will give you that. And they don't always get enforced. No shit! That's a drag reading literally every post looking for a reason to issue a warning, so it's probably not what happens. The solution here is to have a very short list of rules that are also open to interpretation. Read them. Understand them. Don't abuse them, and the bans won't hit you. I don't see why my presenting this concept is so far out of left field or why you want to shut me down (want to - not that I am being literally shut down), I mean aside from an insult that wouldn't have so much as been noticed here. I sincerely do apologize for the insult, but no one wants to accept the apology, which it doesn't take a very big person to do. I won't press the issue here any further. Contrary to your characterizations of me, I won't be taking it to the other forum either.
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Post by FATAL ASSERTION on Mar 24, 2016 1:57:10 GMT
Stop feeding it chaps. It has been pointed out that its trying so very hard to find a victim card. Its clear that's what this is about. We don't need to defend this forum, the actions over the longer term will do that. That's just not true, but I don't really expect you to believe me. Good day, see you around.
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Post by vvmrgoodcatvv on Mar 24, 2016 1:57:19 GMT
My first ever ban was 3 days over name and shaming myself, and asking for help with the stock M46 Patton grind. You can't call that hearsay. R3ST was banned for posting an IS-7 guide in General Discussion, when so many other guides and other specific topics get posted there all the time. You can't call that hearsay, either. So I looked at that one, and you totally violated the rules. (Using the proverbial "you" and "we" from here on) Does someone have a moderated post that doesn't violate the rules? Actually forget it. I am done. We aren't going to agree in general about the job the mods there do (which is a shit job in my opinion). The rules over there kind of do suck, I will give you that. And they don't always get enforced. No shit! That's a drag reading literally every post looking for a reason to issue a warning. The solution here is to have a very short list of rules that are also open to interpretation. Read them. Understand them. Don't abuse them, and the bans won't hit you. I don't see why my presenting this concept is so far out of left field or why you want to shut me down (want to - not that I am being literally shut down), I mean aside from an insult that wouldn't have so much as been noticed here. I sincerely do apologize for the insult, but no one wants to accept the apology, which it doesn't take a very big person to do. I won't press the issue here any further. Contrary to your characterizations of me, I won't be taking it to the other forum either. I will accept your apology if its sincere and we will have to agree to disagree about the state and competency of moderating on the official forum. We done, I hope so. Happy tanking Fatal
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Mar 24, 2016 16:46:33 GMT
I managed to unintentionally get 6 warning points in as many minutes on WoT forums along with another perma ban on another account. It's so dilicously hilarious how easy it is to evade detection with tons of alts. I literally had to have the name of that particular alt in my signature and then quote that account with the alt to get noticed and only then because I was on a hot streak and being stealth censored constantly. You could ask any forumer worth their salt for information regarding 240s alts and they could give you 5 right off the top of their head. But the accounts go untouched. Yet you can say something that is not at all offensive or insulting and get suspended for it.
What do they expect when they give us a deadline and then miss that deadline by 45% and counting. People get bored and pissy.
That's my 7th permabanned account and only 3 of those were from being discovered as an alt.
I had to laugh at the warning I got, sounded like a kindergarten teacher scolding a small child.
One day they may grow up and realize that imaginary suspensions in an imaginary realm over petty meaningless rules don't exactly mean much to anyone.
If I need to I can trade out this Xbone for another, I can reset my IP, I can create an alt account in seconds, I have a notebook with all the alts and passwords, at any given time I have 5 active alts and twice that many inactives.
Bottom line is WG, one does not simply stop me from posting on as many alternate accounts as I wish at any time on any whim.
But it's gonna be OK does it really hurt you whether someone says something on their main account or their alt? Nope. It just means your "punishments" are even less meaningful than they would be if I had but one account.
/Rant
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Post by Three Snowshoes on Mar 24, 2016 17:40:46 GMT
I managed to unintentionally get 6 warning points in as many minutes on WoT forums along with another perma ban on another account. It's so dilicously hilarious how easy it is to evade detection with tons of alts. I literally had to have the name of that particular alt in my signature and then quote that account with the alt to get noticed and only then because I was on a hot streak and being stealth censored constantly. You could ask any forumer worth their salt for information regarding 240s alts and they could give you 5 right off the top of their head. But the accounts go untouched. Yet you can say something that is not at all offensive or insulting and get suspended for it. What do they expect when they give us a deadline and then miss that deadline by 45% and counting. People get bored and pissy. That's my 7th permabanned account and only 3 of those were from being discovered as an alt. I had to laugh at the warning I got, sounded like a kindergarten teacher scolding a small child. One day they may grow up and realize that imaginary suspensions in an imaginary realm over petty meaningless rules don't exactly mean much to anyone. If I need to I can trade out this Xbone for another, I can reset my IP, I can create an alt account in seconds, I have a notebook with all the alts and passwords, at any given time I have 5 active alts and twice that many inactives. Bottom line is WG, one does not simply stop me from posting on as many alternate accounts as I wish at any time on any whim. But it's gonna be OK does it really hurt you whether someone says something on their main account or their alt? Nope. It just means your "punishments" are even less meaningful than they would be if I had but one account.The /Rant No offense, but if you've had that many accounts permanently banned, your consistent accrual of points can't be seen as anything CLOSE to "unintentional." You have to be behaving in a consistently antagonistic/belligerent manner to keep getting whacked with the banhammer six ways from Saturday. The suspensions aren't imaginary, and to them they're not petty. And they probably wonder when you'll learn that they don't care if you create new accounts, they'll just keep giving you time outs and permabans all the live long fucking day. The fact you have so many active alts at any give time is sufficient evidence that you are an active and boisterous troll who wears such facts on his sleeve like some sort of badge. Your rant is one of the silliest I've read. You even thought it was worthy of its own thread, which it wasn't. Stop being a dickwad over there, blatantly breaking the WG house rules and getting ousted, just to create another account so you can continue being a dickwad. It's not flattering behavior, and quite frankly, it's not something you should be trumpeting over here. This site is designed to be an alternative to the other site where we can use adult language without being moderated, in a nutshell. It's not supposed to be some refugee camp for miscreants that just troll the WG site all the live long day and need somewhere else to vent when they get tagged for being a legitimate pain in the ass.
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