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Post by Shhhhh on Mar 19, 2016 22:32:10 GMT
Well got deleted lol
My message to one of the overlords
View PostRuthless4u, on 19 March 2016 - 09:11 AM, said: That we have people posting on here that encourage AFK, trolling, and other forms of game disruption that don't get banned, but we have other people that call them out on it who do?
I know it was stated that calling people out on their actions is disruptive and does not encourage proper discussion.
But my question to you forum admin/staff
Which is more disruptive and generally worse for the game
People who encourage and promote bad gameplay( AFK, Trolling, etc) or
The players who call them out on it trying to improve the experience for all.
Why do you protect the former and not the latter?
This is a legit question. Please don't disrespect me or the other players who want to know this by hiding behind a very loose interpretation of the rules that only applies when you want it to.
A large portion of the forum wants to know why you go out of your way to protect trolls, spammers, and disruptive players. You cannot deny that you do this, it's as if you declared war on the the good players who are actually care enough to try and correct the issues.
Simply put.
Why do you protect the disruptive players at all cost over the good ones.
There is ample evidence of this, why continue to deny it? Will you even respond?
Thoughts?
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Post by Violet Viper x on Mar 19, 2016 22:38:58 GMT
Shhhhh, so what nonsense reason did they give for locking your thread?
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Post by Shhhhh on Mar 19, 2016 22:40:21 GMT
Shhhhh , so what nonsense reason did they give for locking your thread? Disputing moderator action
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Post by Violet Viper x on Mar 19, 2016 22:44:23 GMT
Shhhhh , so what nonsense reason did they give for locking your thread? Disputing moderator action I fail to see how asking a legitimate question is disputing anything
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Post by Shhhhh on Mar 19, 2016 22:44:31 GMT
Also asked which specific moderation I disputed. Wonder which one they will use.
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Post by imhidingshh on Mar 19, 2016 22:44:49 GMT
Shhhhh , so what nonsense reason did they give for locking your thread? Disputing moderator action But you didn't, you were asking a question about why they don't take action, not on an action they've taken.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Mar 19, 2016 22:52:02 GMT
That place really is going to shit. There's nothing but General Discussion, which is now full of idiots, trouble makers and morons, and the moderators just close anything that isn't an exemplary view of the game. They don't interact with the community any more either. Answers to questions are no longer what they used to be, the admins just answer it very coldly and then lock the thread. The creative competitions have essentially stopped. There used to be art and photo caption contests, those are gone now. What few competitions we do have are just rewarded with an amount of silver you could earn in ten or fifteen good tier VIII premium games, and a meagre length of premium time that you won't get full use out of anyway. The place is just seeming increasingly pointless. It's the same repetitive crap all the time. "Arty is OP", "TDs are OP", "Change Dragon Ridge", "Get rid of this", "Get rid of that", "I saw someone AFK", "Someone used premium rounds", "Balance game pls", it's just the same worthless shit over and over and over again. Anything different, new or vaguely interesting is lost within hours or is moderated or taken over by some complete fucknuckle. The only threads that get any attention are yet more AFK/balance threads, and a thread made by a complete retard that everyone rags. Fan Art and Historical Discussions are completely dead. It seems the admins won't even touch Historical Discussions with a barge pole because it might vaguely involve discussion of something bad in history like the Nazis or something that might create offence to any person anywhere in the vaguest possible manner. Why not put a slot for it in the Community Recap? (which, by the way, is essentially just some people saying "I did gud" and one guy's pencil drawing). There's plenty of articles written by people. There was a debating society which completely died off after having no support other than being pinned (which had no explanation, not even a staff post). There isn't any constructive, entertaining, intelligent or imaginative discussion, the staff are distanced, the moderators are incompetent, the rules are incredibly vague and a lot of the people there are complete prats.
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Post by vvmrgoodcatvv on Mar 19, 2016 22:53:30 GMT
After how the game has been playing and the absolute fuck up that is the wg forum, I think I'm done again with wot (in about 8 days when my prem time runs out). I came back because I missed the game but I have quite a few tanks on the pc, but more so because I missed my tanking and forum friends like our host REST. I am so pissed off with the direction this game has gone due to bad decisions by the console devs. At least on PC (which I am actually better at) you have a more balanced experience. I was that pissed off with the state of the forums I asked who I have to write too to complain about it, Nyx and Saberwing just fobbed me off so I submitted a ticket. The response I got was to msg Saberwing or Nyx, when I said I'd like someone to write too they said they couldn't give me the address and closed the ticket. I have been suffering too, don't know what it was but it stopped me hitting the weights and kickboxing and NOTHING stops me from doing that normally. We need that windows xbox cross platform gaming so we can play other stuff together.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Mar 19, 2016 22:55:04 GMT
Disputing moderator action But you didn't, you were asking a question about why they don't take action, not on an action they've taken. Obviously now future staff action, whether it may or may not happen, is classified as "disputing moderation". Which technically covers anything that WG staff might possibly do or have ever done, including wondering whether they should have one or two sugars in their coffee and wondering what pair of socks to wear in the morning. Therefore WG now have the power to moderate anything containing the phrase "WG" or "Wargaming". That's the only logical explanation I can come up with.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 22:57:49 GMT
Once I'm off ban I'm going to try a different approach. I will make a post saying about the same thing Ruthless did but I will include a detailed poll and make it a poll only topic. That way no one can derail it. By keeping complete control over the post I may be able to avoid all the normal reasons that they use to close a poll.
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Post by Shhhhh on Mar 19, 2016 22:58:08 GMT
That place really is going to shit. There's nothing but General Discussion, which is now full of idiots, trouble makers and morons, and the moderators just close anything that isn't an exemplary view of the game. They don't interact with the community any more either. Answers to questions are no longer what they used to be, the admins just answer it very coldly and then lock the thread. The creative competitions have essentially stopped. There used to be art and photo caption contests, those are gone now. What few competitions we do have are just rewarded with an amount of silver you could earn in ten or fifteen good tier VIII premium games, and a meagre length of premium time that you won't get full use out of anyway. The place is just seeming increasingly pointless. It's the same repetitive crap all the time. "Arty is OP", "TDs are OP", "Change Dragon Ridge", "Get rid of this", "Get rid of that", "I saw someone AFK", "Someone used premium rounds", "Balance game pls", it's just the same worthless shit over and over and over again. Anything different, new or vaguely interesting is lost within hours or is moderated or taken over by some complete fucknuckle. The only threads that get any attention are yet more AFK/balance threads, and a thread made by a complete retard that everyone rags. Fan Art and Historical Discussions are completely dead. It seems the admins won't even touch Historical Discussions with a barge pole because it might vaguely involve discussion of something bad in history like the Nazis or something that might create offence to any person anywhere in the vaguest possible manner. Why not put a slot for it in the Community Recap? (which, by the way, is essentially just some people saying "I did gud" and one guy's pencil drawing). There's plenty of articles written by people. There was a debating society which completely died off after having no support other than being pinned (which had no explanation, not even a staff post). There isn't any constructive, entertaining, intelligent or imaginative discussion, the staff are distanced, the moderators are incompetent, the rules are incredibly vague and a lot of the people there are complete prats. The forums in large part killed the game for me.
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Post by vvmrgoodcatvv on Mar 19, 2016 22:59:00 GMT
But you didn't, you were asking a question about why they don't take action, not on an action they've taken. Obviously now future staff action, whether it may or may not happen, is classified as "disputing moderation". Which technically covers anything that WG staff might possibly do or have ever done, including wondering whether they should have one or two sugars in their coffee and wondering what pair of socks to wear in the morning. Therefore WG now have the power to moderate anything containing the phrase "WG" or "Wargaming". That's the only logical explanation I can come up with. Tow the line, and by line I mean be people the mods like or get banned. That's the logic.
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Post by vvmrgoodcatvv on Mar 19, 2016 23:01:15 GMT
That place really is going to shit. There's nothing but General Discussion, which is now full of idiots, trouble makers and morons, and the moderators just close anything that isn't an exemplary view of the game. They don't interact with the community any more either. Answers to questions are no longer what they used to be, the admins just answer it very coldly and then lock the thread. The creative competitions have essentially stopped. There used to be art and photo caption contests, those are gone now. What few competitions we do have are just rewarded with an amount of silver you could earn in ten or fifteen good tier VIII premium games, and a meagre length of premium time that you won't get full use out of anyway. The place is just seeming increasingly pointless. It's the same repetitive crap all the time. "Arty is OP", "TDs are OP", "Change Dragon Ridge", "Get rid of this", "Get rid of that", "I saw someone AFK", "Someone used premium rounds", "Balance game pls", it's just the same worthless shit over and over and over again. Anything different, new or vaguely interesting is lost within hours or is moderated or taken over by some complete fucknuckle. The only threads that get any attention are yet more AFK/balance threads, and a thread made by a complete retard that everyone rags. Fan Art and Historical Discussions are completely dead. It seems the admins won't even touch Historical Discussions with a barge pole because it might vaguely involve discussion of something bad in history like the Nazis or something that might create offence to any person anywhere in the vaguest possible manner. Why not put a slot for it in the Community Recap? (which, by the way, is essentially just some people saying "I did gud" and one guy's pencil drawing). There's plenty of articles written by people. There was a debating society which completely died off after having no support other than being pinned (which had no explanation, not even a staff post). There isn't any constructive, entertaining, intelligent or imaginative discussion, the staff are distanced, the moderators are incompetent, the rules are incredibly vague and a lot of the people there are complete prats. The forums in large part killed the game for me. The forums were a huge part of the game for me. Now that they are as shit as the game has become it's damaged it for me too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 23:07:10 GMT
The forums in large part killed the game for me. The forums were a huge part of the game for me. Now that they are as shit as the game has become it's damaged it for me too. I've managed to keep the two separate. I mostly avoid tier X and stick to VI- VIII. By doing this I'm able to avoid the most outrageous balance issues and still have a great time playing the game. Even though I'm irritated with the state of the forum this game is still the most fun I've had playing videogames in years.
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Post by Shhhhh on Mar 19, 2016 23:08:49 GMT
The forums in large part killed the game for me. The forums were a huge part of the game for me. Now that they are as shit as the game has become it's damaged it for me too. Shame too, so much fun in the early days. I could make a dozen post about how wrong you were about arty and we could keep it good natured and civil. Can't do that anymore. If you ever get around to playing Naval Action look me up.
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Post by vvmrgoodcatvv on Mar 19, 2016 23:09:06 GMT
The forums were a huge part of the game for me. Now that they are as shit as the game has become it's damaged it for me too. I've managed to keep the two separate. I mostly avoid tier X and stick to VI- VIII. By doing this I'm able to avoid the most outrageous balance issues and still have a great time playing the game. Even though I'm irritated with the state of the forum this game is still the most fun I've had playing videogames in years. Tier x was always my favourite and now its an utter mess
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Post by vvmrgoodcatvv on Mar 19, 2016 23:12:18 GMT
The forums were a huge part of the game for me. Now that they are as shit as the game has become it's damaged it for me too. Shame too, so much fun in the early days. I could make a dozen post about how wrong you were about arty and we could keep it good natured and civil. Can't do that anymore. If you ever get around to playing Naval Action look me up. Exactly. I hate arty with a burning passion. You love it, however we were friends on the forum. Cant do that with people with opposing views in there no. Hell I've platooned and had fun with asmodios and me and him used to go at it about arty.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 23:40:30 GMT
We all originally loved the game. The forum helped kill that love for many of us. I'm still hopeful that this forum will help us rekindle the feelings were used to have for the game.
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Post by vvmrgoodcatvv on Mar 20, 2016 0:08:24 GMT
After how the game has been playing and the absolute fuck up that is the wg forum, I think I'm done again with wot (in about 8 days when my prem time runs out). I came back because I missed the game but I have quite a few tanks on the pc, but more so because I missed my tanking and forum friends like our host REST. I am so pissed off with the direction this game has gone due to bad decisions by the console devs. At least on PC (which I am actually better at) you have a more balanced experience. Shame to hear that mate but i get it. I'll platoon a bit with you before you go hopefully, had tonsillitis recently so hadn't been on for more than a few battles at a time every few hours per day recently as teams suck and getting wound up was painful due to sore throat. See my response to I'mhiddinshhh, that was for you but being the dumbass I am I quoted the wrong guy although I'm happy to play with you too imhiding lol
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Post by Skankhunt42 on Mar 20, 2016 0:49:57 GMT
Anybody have a screenshot of the OP of that thread? I missed it earlier and it's sanitized now...
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