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Post by Definitely not FledBasher on Feb 19, 2016 15:40:47 GMT
We got to where we are by trying things that hadn't been tried before. We didn't use the best ideas and rigorously test them. That's ridiculous to even think. Sure some things were tested but what do you think this is? This is an idea about to be tested. Your saying don't even test ideas? How do you test something without...testing it ? Did you even read my post lol? Yes. You seem to think that everything has been rigorously tested and was the best idea they could come up with. I'm saying yohbare wrong. Many things were crazy ideas. Some things wernt even ideas. They were accidents. A lot of where we are today came from accidents. Some from awful ideas. This is an idea. Its not the best idea but it doesn't mean it won't work. Know how we find out if it does? Testing. We test it once. If it works then we have a reason to test it again. If it doesn't work then we know not to put it through rigorous testing. Its a lot like what you said in that post you don't think I read. |
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Post by Atom Priest on Feb 19, 2016 15:45:11 GMT
Did you even read my post lol? Yes. You seem to think that everything has been rigorously tested and was the best idea they could come up with. I'm saying yohbare wrong. Many things were crazy ideas. Some things wernt even ideas. They were accidents. A lot of where we are today came from accidents. Some from awful ideas. This is an idea. Its not the best idea but it doesn't mean it won't work. Know how we find out if it does? Testing. We test it once. If it works then we have a reason to test it again. If it doesn't work then we know not to put it through rigorous testing. Its a lot like what you said in that post you don't think I read. I must have worded it wrong. I was talking about the last 100 or so years in which we have improved on ideas that were the product of thousands of years of trial and error. I don't know. I'm going off on a tangent instead. I had a clever thought, then *poof* it was gone, so I had to make some bollocks up. You know the usual. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 15:46:20 GMT
I hate to jump in on this but I can't resist. Trolling a player or Clan no matter the reasoning does not help your cause. At no point am I defending Delta and his AFK'ing ways. If I was in [ARTY] I would leave the Clan. His actions define the Clan. Trolling an ARTY Clan member makes you and the Clan you represent look bad in the public eye. The majority of random players don't know the back story and just see you being an ass to another player. Like I said this will affect the random player's opinion of you and your Clan. Something should be done about AFK players but I don't see this as the solution. That's all I've got to say on this one. I agree that it looks bad and trolling in general is a bad thing. Afkers have been talked about since the release...just about. WG made it a little harder to do but that's it. This is a problem that has been unsolved for a few years. Please, give me another solution. Seriously. People want to say it's a bad idea but they have no clue what to do. I guess we can all just sit quietly and do nothing. I mean when has that not worked? Probably never. Sitting around doing nothing has to be the answer. I'm willing to try any idea except sitting around doing nothing Well...how about public shaming? I'm sure you are already making some ARTY members question their Clan choice. Continue that process. Take it to game chat. If you log in and see ARTY on your team or the red team, call them out. Let your team know the type of person they may be dealing with, if they are on the red team try and get your team to go after them first. I just don't see Trolling them as an effective plan of action. Like I said earlier. You'll just be making yourself and the Clan you represent look bad to the majority of the players. It could reach the point where randoms have a worse opinion of you and your Clan than Delta and Arty. |
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Definitely not FledBasher
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Post by Definitely not FledBasher on Feb 19, 2016 15:49:02 GMT
Yes. You seem to think that everything has been rigorously tested and was the best idea they could come up with. I'm saying yohbare wrong. Many things were crazy ideas. Some things wernt even ideas. They were accidents. A lot of where we are today came from accidents. Some from awful ideas. This is an idea. Its not the best idea but it doesn't mean it won't work. Know how we find out if it does? Testing. We test it once. If it works then we have a reason to test it again. If it doesn't work then we know not to put it through rigorous testing. Its a lot like what you said in that post you don't think I read. I must have worded it wrong. I was talking about the last 100 or so years in which we have improved on ideas that were the product of thousands of years of trial and error. I don't know. I'm going off on a tangent instead. I had a clever thought, then *poof* it was gone, so I had to make some bollocks up. You know the usual. That's how all my posts go. As you can tell. We don't have 100s or thousands of years. Every idea that gets tested has to start with a single idea being tested once. This is my single test of an idea. Who knows. Maybe hundreds of years from now that will be using it and improving it. |
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Definitely not FledBasher
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Post by Definitely not FledBasher on Feb 19, 2016 15:55:11 GMT
I agree that it looks bad and trolling in general is a bad thing. Afkers have been talked about since the release...just about. WG made it a little harder to do but that's it. This is a problem that has been unsolved for a few years. Please, give me another solution. Seriously. People want to say it's a bad idea but they have no clue what to do. I guess we can all just sit quietly and do nothing. I mean when has that not worked? Probably never. Sitting around doing nothing has to be the answer. I'm willing to try any idea except sitting around doing nothing Well...how about public shaming? I'm sure you are already making some ARTY members question their Clan choice. Continue that process. Take it to game chat. If you log in and see ARTY on your team or the red team, call them out. Let your team know the type of person they may be dealing with, if they are on the red team try and get your team to go after them first. I just don't see Trolling them as an effective plan of action. Like I said earlier. You'll just be making yourself and the Clan you represent look bad to the majority of the players. It could reach the point where randoms have a worse opinion of you and your Clan than Delta and Arty. That's what I'm doing lol. I haven't trolled anyone yet. So far it's public shaming and letting the clan members know it's open season on them because of their leader. |
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Post by Owl on Feb 19, 2016 15:59:53 GMT
He knows that I don't do that type of thing. I didn't know he was actually AFK'ing, until I saw someone bring it up on the forum. I initially was responding to outside people in threads concerning him, just because I felt like certain people were looking for anything he said / did turning it into a dumpster fire in so many threads (not just about AFK'ing but pretty much anything being discussed). It was annoying. As for me 'not caring', I don't make his decisions, he is his own dude. But I won't stop being friends/gaming with him because he does something I don't agree with. The rapist thing is just ridiculous and I'm not even going to entertain that as comparing the 2 is nothing alike. This is a game, that is a real life tragedy. His 'carry' response is just a sarcastic way of replying, he isn't meant to be a legit defense of AFK'ing. So no, not 'Seriously'. As far as me looking bad - maybe in some people's eyes, especially those with an agenda. I feel like there are plenty other forumers who have interacted with me both in game and on the boards that know I am a straight forward guy and generally get along with people.
Did you forget the part where I posted about deltas AFKing over a month ago, your response... "He's just making sure everyone knows that he is so awesome at the tonks." A snarky response at me to defend your butt buddy |
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Post by ajh387 on Feb 19, 2016 16:03:37 GMT
He knows that I don't do that type of thing. I didn't know he was actually AFK'ing, until I saw someone bring it up on the forum. I initially was responding to outside people in threads concerning him, just because I felt like certain people were looking for anything he said / did turning it into a dumpster fire in so many threads (not just about AFK'ing but pretty much anything being discussed). It was annoying. As for me 'not caring', I don't make his decisions, he is his own dude. But I won't stop being friends/gaming with him because he does something I don't agree with. The rapist thing is just ridiculous and I'm not even going to entertain that as comparing the 2 is nothing alike. This is a game, that is a real life tragedy. His 'carry' response is just a sarcastic way of replying, he isn't meant to be a legit defense of AFK'ing. So no, not 'Seriously'. As far as me looking bad - maybe in some people's eyes, especially those with an agenda. I feel like there are plenty other forumers who have interacted with me both in game and on the boards that know I am a straight forward guy and generally get along with people.
Did you forget the part where I posted about deltas AFKing over a month ago, your response... "He's just making sure everyone knows that he is so awesome at the tonks." A snarky response at me to defend your butt buddy I didn't forget that and it was actually covered in my previous post. |
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Post by LifeTilts on Feb 19, 2016 18:26:12 GMT
I wish someone else had started the ARTY-clan, I would'ave probably joined but Delta's attitude was very off-putting. My 6th sense went off and I wasn't going anywhere near that place.
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Definitely not FledBasher
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Post by Definitely not FledBasher on Feb 19, 2016 19:37:49 GMT
I wish someone else had started the ARTY-clan, I would'ave probably joined but Delta's attitude was very off-putting. My 6th sense went off and I wasn't going anywhere near that place. Yea. I don't know why people join clans run by obvious or known trolls. I'm lookin at you waffle boys |
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Post by Corporal Derpy on Feb 19, 2016 19:39:25 GMT
I wish someone else had started the ARTY-clan, I would'ave probably joined but Delta's attitude was very off-putting. My 6th sense went off and I wasn't going anywhere near that place. Yea. I don't know why people join clans run by obvious or known trolls. I'm lookin at you waffle boys I would love to know the story behind that. Like didn't T-Bone make that to begin with, then get kicked out of it, and now in R-A for some fucking reason. |
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Post by FATAL ASSERTION on Feb 19, 2016 19:41:05 GMT
I think simply informing arty clan members that their leader is an avowed troll, and that they are viewed similarly so long as they carry the clan tag and run with Delta would be a great first step.
You can't assume that each member agrees with Delta, but you can almost count on forum posts such as these and the other thread in the official forum to be used against you in terms of getting babned for violating xbox live's terms of service.
You guys, I thought tou were more intelligent than one who would stoop to the whole "an eye for an eye" mentality. I mean, crimes of passion in the heat of the moment are definitely a thing, like when someone blocks your retreat it is common practice to give them a love tap in return before going your separate ways, but cold blooded organized trolling is actually a terrible idea and you should probably put a stop to this campaign before you lose your live account and your entire garage. Food for thought, if you're willing to digest it, but as I said elsewhere, YOU ALREADY SEEM DEAD SET CONVINCED THAT YOU'RE "RIGHT", so I am not sure why I am bothering to try and advocate for your best interests here.
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Post by Definitely not FledBasher on Feb 19, 2016 19:47:35 GMT
I think simply informing arty clan members that their leader is an avowed troll, and that they are viewed similarly so long as they carry the clan tag and run with Delta would be a great first step. You can't assume that each member agrees with Delta, but you can almost count on forum posts such as these and the other thread in the official forum to be used against you in terms of getting babned for violating xbox live's terms of service. You guys, I thought tou were more intelligent than one who would stoop to the whole "an eye for an eye" mentality. I mean, crimes of passion in the heat of the moment are definitely a thing, like when someone blocks your retreat it is common practice to give them a love tap in return before going your separate ways, but cold blooded organized trolling is actually a terrible idea and you should probably put a stop to this campaign before you lose your live account and your entire garage. Food for thought, if you're willing to digest it, but as I said elsewhere, YOU ALREADY SEEM DEAD SET CONVINCED THAT YOU'RE "RIGHT", so I am not sure why I am bothering to try and advocate for your best interests here. Something has to be done about afking in the first place. Delta needs to be dealt with because he is not only an afker but a giant bag of douche as well. I still haven't seen a single idea on how to deal with this. All I see is people saying that the way it's being dealt with is wrong. Give me the right way to deal with delta |
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Post by Corporal Derpy on Feb 19, 2016 19:48:08 GMT
I think simply informing arty clan members that their leader is an avowed troll, and that they are viewed similarly so long as they carry the clan tag and run with Delta would be a great first step. You can't assume that each member agrees with Delta, but you can almost count on forum posts such as these and the other thread in the official forum to be used against you in terms of getting babned for violating xbox live's terms of service. I've left a post on his clan thread with the 3 posts of him saying he was going to AFK the line, so it's there, but even then the chances of them seeing it is low. Any of them could see the multiple threads he has made where he has defended his actions, his thread where he stated he was going to do it, so on, and if they still don't know of it then the only way to do so is to send them all messages on the forums with it. This is all assuming they actually care at all about it. If he can get away with AFK'ing for 1k+ battles, admitting to doing it and whatnot, I think I can get away with saying I would troll him if I ever see him actually playing, which is already unlikely. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 20:05:11 GMT
So how in the world did I end up in WFFLE...
The saga of WFFLE and Voldemort...
Voldemort wanted to start a Clan but had no gold. AnonymousHobo69 had the gold and told Voldemort he'd start it for him.
Now what Voldemort didn't know was that Hobo and I platoon often and go back from the Light Tank Clan.
So Voldemort gets his Clan for about a week. Hobo wants me to join but I told him no way. I have a slight dislike for Voldemort and his Trolling ways...but Hobo is a persistent lad so I tell him I'll join if and only if he demotes Voldemort and makes me the second in command. Hobo takes me up on my offer, invites me to the Clan, promotes me to second, and demotes Voldemort. Of course Voldemort had no idea what was happening until after it was done.
Voldemort left the Clan for some reason after that.
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Post by ajh387 on Feb 19, 2016 20:07:20 GMT
As I have said, we are aware of the posts. And like I said earlier, I had no idea he was honestly doing it. Owl first posted in our clan thread about his recent numbers and I thought he was just bickering with him, as those 2 were always at odds about everything (not just AFK'ing). That was why I reacted the way I did, because it was annoying. As more AFK posts came up, I stopped commenting because I can understand why people would be upset. And I'm cool with that. I personally am not a mission to tell him what to do, but even if I disagree with AFK'ing, I am cool with Delta and am not going to leave a clan I like or stop being friends with him over a game. I then felt the need to speak up because I thought the mass mobbing of the clan as a whole was misdirected. I know we lost a couple members and that is understandable too. But my intention was to clear the air for the rest of the guys in the clan. We are good guys and don't cause problems and I'd have no problem chatting, platooning etc with anyone on the forums that wants to. And I also for myself, wanted to say that while I won't back Delta for actually AFK'ing, I will remain friends with him and remain gaming with him. And if I also take heat for it, that is fine too. But the fact remains is the clan is a cool bunch of guys who just likes to play arty and any other tank. And a few of us have spoken to Delta about the incident privately. I think the whole thing has been blown way out of proportion.
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Post by Corporal Derpy on Feb 19, 2016 20:08:36 GMT
So that's how that business went down.
And here I thought he was the leader and somehow got kicked from it by second in command or something.
Now he's went into R-A.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 20:09:51 GMT
I wish someone else had started the ARTY-clan, I would'ave probably joined but Delta's attitude was very off-putting. My 6th sense went off and I wasn't going anywhere near that place. Yea. I don't know why people join clans run by obvious or known trolls. I'm lookin at you waffle boys The answers you seek are in this thread... |
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Post by heg82 on Feb 19, 2016 20:12:15 GMT
Oh wtf! Was it a big bribe?
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Corporal Derpy
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Post by Corporal Derpy on Feb 19, 2016 20:13:47 GMT
Nice quote there Hewd.  Some of the quoting on the site does seem a bit buggy, either making the quoted post disappear, or end up like that. |
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Post by heg82 on Feb 19, 2016 20:15:14 GMT
Nice quote there Hewd. Some of the quoting on the site does seem a bit buggy, either making the quoted post disappear, or end up like that. Yeah, messed it up on the phone so i edited my fuck up. |
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