Corporal Derpy
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Post by Corporal Derpy on Feb 2, 2019 15:54:41 GMT
Finally decided I'd get around to just making a thread and leaving it here. Posted both in the shoutbox but that's always ongoing even if there's the times where it stagnates for the day. The first one is the way that MoE Tracks Assist Damage. It only tracks and counts the highest between Spotting and Tracking Assist at the end of that match, the rest gets completely wasted and as far as the game is concerned it doesn't exist. Say you have a game where you manage 1,501 Spotting and 1,500 Tracking. That by all means should be 3,001 Assist but the game only sees it as 1,501 when it comes to MoE so chances are, you lose % because it thinks you had a mediocre game where you only did that damage even though you did more. The second one. Courtesy of someone on one of the Discords. Roughly explains as to why you can hit someone in the ammo rack multiple times and never even damage it. Not much I can add to it, they show the exact values for everything.
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CatSnipah
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Post by CatSnipah on Feb 3, 2019 15:19:23 GMT
That’s the first I’ve heard of the MOE point you make. Have any specific proof? When did this change? It certainly wasn’t always like that.
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Corporal Derpy
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Post by Corporal Derpy on Feb 3, 2019 16:44:34 GMT
That’s the first I’ve heard of the MOE point you make. Have any specific proof? When did this change? It certainly wasn’t always like that. I went about bringing it up to a few PC Players and to my surprise found out it's still even a thing on PC. So I imagine it's always been there as far as Console goes. As far as any specific proof. I've personally not made any attempt to go trying to get hard proof of it nor would I expect it to even be possible on Console as really all you can do is do X amount of damage/assist damage. Then do another match and try to match that but with either only one type of Assist, or both and see how much of an effect it has on the %. Then do that a lot of times and keep all the findings. PC could I would imagine if the MoE tracking modpacks are designed with it in mind, or maybe it'd work better if they aren't since it would mean showing the gain if it counted and then the actual gain at the end. However I can't seem to find anything anyway on someone testing it there either.
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Corporal Derpy
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Post by Corporal Derpy on Feb 3, 2019 22:24:45 GMT
Looking back it probably should've been worded better. The MoE Assist Damage thing is a bug that it has had presumably since introduction on PC and of course copy/pasted onto Console. But given that MoE's are more just a kind of throw-away feature they tossed in with little support it has simply never been fixed. WG seems to want as little to do as possible with MoE's and I guess even if were to be brought up as a known issue. The response would be along the lines of 'Well it isn't breaking it entirely' and politely telling you to sod off. Edit : Colour me surprised the MoE Tracker Mods on PC actually show it. First Circ video I've watched in a while so I decided to keep an eye and sure enough. 253 Damage, 2,501 Assist. But it's only showing as 1,766 towards the MoE. So if we take away the the 253 from that, we get 1,513 Assist. Meaning there's 988 there that is going to waste.
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Mobius Y
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Post by Mobius Y on Feb 15, 2019 20:58:16 GMT
Gotta say, both of those are really dumb.
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