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Post by JesterUSMC on May 17, 2018 13:09:38 GMT
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Post by R35T NO MORE on May 17, 2018 13:18:01 GMT
Here's the rest of Dr. Bodge's original post:
Dear Forum,
In particular I would like to extend kind regards to old friends and forum elders. I won’t name names, primarily for fear of offending someone by omission. I would like to say that I have missed the place but I have popped in from time to time and haven’t been too impressed by the level of discourse. It seems many of the loudest voices have disappeared (or been silenced?) and, with them, has gone some of the bile but also much of the energy and wisdom of the community.
Anyway, enough sour grapes, I have returned for a specific purpose and I should not allow myself to get side-tracked. No topics tempted me to contribute until now. When Crowley began collecting data last year we saw little evidence of an immediate threat to the game but when I examined the (Playerbase) figures again around Christmas they showed a marked decline. Since then I have been following them, and they do not look good. There is no way to sugar coat this, if the Playerbase figures are a measure of the health of the game then the game is indeed very sick. Seeking greater clarity I began studying the 28-day and 7-day figures and, if anything, they were ever more concerning.
When R35T (and others) started this debate I felt that someone should sound the alarm. However, it was also clear to me that nobody else had both access to the figures and an idea of how to present them and so it was clear that this role fell to me. While there may be a handful of others who could provide you with this information it is likely they all work for WG and are unlikely to embrace transparency.
Anyway to cut a long story slightly less long, hereis a short video I prepared to summarise my conclusions; I know how much you all hate reading. Those of you who are really curious you can compare this with a similar video I produced last year, but didn’t publicise.
Best wishes
Dr. Bodge.
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Post by TremendousQuill on May 17, 2018 17:29:01 GMT
It is a sad indictment that this has been obvious for almost 12 months, and WG gloss over and do nothing about it. It is clearly becoming a last dash cash grab before the game officially dies.
Most frustrating for me is that despite all its flaws, I still play and enjoy the game. Do I play or enjoy it as much, no, but I'll still be sad when it's gone.
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Post by kebabsaurus on May 17, 2018 17:49:46 GMT
Agreed, I enjoy playing the game.
The majority of the posts on the forum about the state of the game have been asking nicely (see R3STs posts) for WG to either tell us about the future or explain why the number of reskins.
WG refuse to answer about the future but continue pumping out reskins. I seriously doubt we will see new lines, like Italy, and think the Swedish line was a total failure - bar a few maps the TDs just do not work on console.
There will be a point that is crossed, terminal decline if you will, and beyond this point the game is doomed. At that point they will be losing more money that they can recoup - this might be acceptable for a few months but eventually it will just be unviable. WG will then make the decision to stop.
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Post by LIBARYKEEPER483 on May 17, 2018 18:18:25 GMT
Here's the rest of Dr. Bodge's original post: Dear Forum, In particular I would like to extend kind regards to old friends and forum elders. I won’t name names, primarily for fear of offending someone by omission. I would like to say that I have missed the place but I have popped in from time to time and haven’t been too impressed by the level of discourse. It seems many of the loudest voices have disappeared (or been silenced?) and, with them, has gone some of the bile but also much of the energy and wisdom of the community. Anyway, enough sour grapes, I have returned for a specific purpose and I should not allow myself to get side-tracked. No topics tempted me to contribute until now. When Crowley began collecting data last year we saw little evidence of an immediate threat to the game but when I examined the (Playerbase) figures again around Christmas they showed a marked decline. Since then I have been following them, and they do not look good. There is no way to sugar coat this, if the Playerbase figures are a measure of the health of the game then the game is indeed very sick. Seeking greater clarity I began studying the 28-day and 7-day figures and, if anything, they were ever more concerning. When R35T (and others) started this debate I felt that someone should sound the alarm. However, it was also clear to me that nobody else had both access to the figures and an idea of how to present them and so it was clear that this role fell to me. While there may be a handful of others who could provide you with this information it is likely they all work for WG and are unlikely to embrace transparency. Anyway to cut a long story slightly less long, hereis a short video I prepared to summarise my conclusions; I know how much you all hate reading. Those of you who are really curious you can compare this with a similar video I produced last year, but didn’t publicise. Best wishes Dr. Bodge. Is this post still up on the forums? If so could I get a Link?
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Post by TremendousQuill on May 17, 2018 20:28:37 GMT
Here's the rest of Dr. Bodge's original post: Dear Forum, In particular I would like to extend kind regards to old friends and forum elders. I won’t name names, primarily for fear of offending someone by omission. I would like to say that I have missed the place but I have popped in from time to time and haven’t been too impressed by the level of discourse. It seems many of the loudest voices have disappeared (or been silenced?) and, with them, has gone some of the bile but also much of the energy and wisdom of the community. Anyway, enough sour grapes, I have returned for a specific purpose and I should not allow myself to get side-tracked. No topics tempted me to contribute until now. When Crowley began collecting data last year we saw little evidence of an immediate threat to the game but when I examined the (Playerbase) figures again around Christmas they showed a marked decline. Since then I have been following them, and they do not look good. There is no way to sugar coat this, if the Playerbase figures are a measure of the health of the game then the game is indeed very sick. Seeking greater clarity I began studying the 28-day and 7-day figures and, if anything, they were ever more concerning. When R35T (and others) started this debate I felt that someone should sound the alarm. However, it was also clear to me that nobody else had both access to the figures and an idea of how to present them and so it was clear that this role fell to me. While there may be a handful of others who could provide you with this information it is likely they all work for WG and are unlikely to embrace transparency. Anyway to cut a long story slightly less long, hereis a short video I prepared to summarise my conclusions; I know how much you all hate reading. Those of you who are really curious you can compare this with a similar video I produced last year, but didn’t publicise. Best wishes Dr. Bodge. Is this post still up on the forums? If so could I get a Link? From what I gather on posts on the video, the forum post has been removed.
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Post by CatSnipah on May 18, 2018 0:55:02 GMT
It didn't last long on the forum. Then, Kebab (I believe) asked about why it was deleted, and that thread was deleted.
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Post by LIBARYKEEPER483 on May 18, 2018 11:14:17 GMT
It didn't last long on the forum. Then, Kebab (I believe) asked about why it was deleted, and that thread was deleted. When you're a wargaming moderator and you haven't unfairly moderated someone in 2 minutes

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Post by imhidingshh on May 18, 2018 20:27:23 GMT
Since I quit playing about 6 months ago the frequent player number has dropped about 40k (players on the hall of fame who have played 100 battles or more within a 30 day period Xbox only). And if it does that again in another 6 months then there won't be a game left at Christmas, and with War Thunder coming out this year that'll only take more players away from the game. Seems like the Devs arrogance and lack of fucks given are killing their own game.
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Post by zulucalm on May 19, 2018 19:59:08 GMT
It really is quite staggering that they don't seem to be taking any steps at all, to slow this decline. The numbers are clear, the trend is clear and it's noticeable how at certain times on the EU Server wait times are longer than they ever were, and 7 vs 7 games are becoming more frequent. I've seen the decline and ultimate end of other MMOG over the years and WOT is showing the signs.
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Post by RagingxMarmoset on May 19, 2018 23:01:42 GMT
It really is quite staggering that they don't seem to be taking any steps at all, to slow this decline. The numbers are clear, the trend is clear and it's noticeable how at certain times on the EU Server wait times are longer than they ever were, and 7 vs 7 games are becoming more frequent. I've seen the decline and ultimate end of other MMOG over the years and WOT is showing the signs. I have nothing to add but it's great to see you around still! You should come join BNKR as we incite unrest in World of Warships.
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Post by cyrex005 on May 20, 2018 16:04:03 GMT
It really is quite staggering that they don't seem to be taking any steps at all, to slow this decline. The numbers are clear, the trend is clear and it's noticeable how at certain times on the EU Server wait times are longer than they ever were, and 7 vs 7 games are becoming more frequent. I've seen the decline and ultimate end of other MMOG over the years and WOT is showing the signs. I have nothing to add but it's great to see you around still! You should come join BNKR as we incite unrest in World of Warships. When I finally get my laptop I'll be downloading World Of Warships and will be joining BNKR there. Not the same playing it on my phone.
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Post by DerailedWingnut on May 21, 2018 15:07:36 GMT
But look at these healthy server numbers at 8pm on Sunday! 
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Post by defiantspurr on May 21, 2018 16:30:51 GMT
I wonder of they are waiting for tanks to die so they can roll out a "new" tanks game. With many improvements and fixes. That would reinvigorate their sales a bit. And if they were able to aim it for new consoles and leave out 360 from the get go, it would save them a lot of hassle. It's what i would do.
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Post by imhidingshh on May 21, 2018 20:29:11 GMT
I wonder of they are waiting for tanks to die so they can roll out a "new" tanks game. With many improvements and fixes. That would reinvigorate their sales a bit. And if they were able to aim it for new consoles and leave out 360 from the get go, it would save them a lot of hassle. It's what i would do. Yeah, bet the sacks of shit reset everyone and make them rebuy premium tanks. That or they'll fuck the game off and bring out WoWs or WoWP, if it's the latter I won't be touching it if the WoT Devs are involved, especially that prick PAIN and Max.
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Post by DerailedWingnut on May 24, 2018 1:00:39 GMT
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Post by Shhhhh on May 24, 2018 1:27:36 GMT
Can't wait to read all the apologist/white knights comments
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Post by Atom Priest on Jul 5, 2018 11:13:36 GMT
wow how did I miss this thread? The Game has been a walking husk for a long long while. I blame poor community management, cheap cash grabbing tactics and not listening to the players. I remember a time when that happened. 4 years ago. It all started when they began work on the xbox one version and basically didn't do any updates or interact with the community at all for over half a year. WG's attitude seemed to change during that hiatus. Just my opinion.
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