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Post by Atom Priest on Nov 20, 2016 16:37:45 GMT
Discuss. No premiums you wallet warrior scum.
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Post by Atom Priest on Nov 20, 2016 17:06:14 GMT
Well I guess nobody is interested, so I'll start.
So the Vomet(lel) is probably the only good med in this tier, and that's not really anything to be proud of considering the other meds are stinkers. It is a decent enough platform for a med. Fast, good gun depression, decent turret armour, low profile. The pen and alpha on the gun are horrible, but you're supposed to flank with it. If that's even possible with all the shit brain campers in their bushes that is. The hull is paper, half the crew dies when you get shot too. The worst thing though is it's MM weight. Being matched like a heavy is depressing with that pen value(though it isn't the worst).
I'd rate it like, 8/10(because no tier VII med can possibly be above an 8)
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Post by THEpotatoskreb on Nov 20, 2016 18:17:02 GMT
Arrrggghhh the heresy he speaks Nah RPG you do have a point, though I am not really good enough to exploit mediums properly. So maybe not good, but some are fun in the right situations, situational being the word. Not played the comet, panther or A44, faced plenty of course but don't rate any of them. The good players excel in the comet of course, but the bad are bad. T20 is good IMO, if you have some nice hills to exploit. Though I find the gun trolls me. Not a stronk turret but good enough. Nice bit of gun depression. The DPM though is meh. would say 7 out of 10. Chi Ri is a laugh with the autoloader, though having a tier 6 gun is not ideal, spam that premium. Would have been easy to not have any armour and save weight, since the armour is pants and it is slow. Does prepare you for the better mediums down the line, but trying to avoid getting hit. But for the fun, 7 The T-34-1 had a good gun, reasonable turret and was quite mobile. But the gun depression sucked, plus the accuracy was pants, and I just never liked it. Bought the 34-2 which was more of the same and rage sold it. Would probably give it a 5. The T43 is very bland IMO, is seems to do everything OK. OK speed, OK armour, dpm OK, alpha and pen OK. Will give it an OK 6. So what I am trying to say is have not played enough T7 mediums Isn't the VK 30.02 or KV-13 good though? Don't like facing either when same tier or below (again never played them)
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Post by Snorelacks on Nov 20, 2016 19:01:04 GMT
I enjoy both the Comet and the T20 (two marks on both), but much of what you say regarding the paper armor and crew health on the Comet is true (same goes for the T20 armor). I'd really like a slight AP buff to the Comet (148mm is a joke in T9 battles) and a RoF buff for the T20.
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Post by Atom Priest on Nov 20, 2016 22:04:00 GMT
just think of how horrible the stock grind is on the cent I after coming from the Comet. It's Diabolical.
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Post by Atom Priest on Nov 20, 2016 22:14:15 GMT
Arrrggghhh the heresy he speaks Nah RPG you do have a point, though I am not really good enough to exploit mediums properly. So maybe not good, but some are fun in the right situations, situational being the word. Not played the comet, panther or A44, faced plenty of course but don't rate any of them. The good players excel in the comet of course, but the bad are bad. T20 is good IMO, if you have some nice hills to exploit. Though I find the gun trolls me. Not a stronk turret but good enough. Nice bit of gun depression. The DPM though is meh. would say 7 out of 10. Chi Ri is a laugh with the autoloader, though having a tier 6 gun is not ideal, spam that premium. Would have been easy to not have any armour and save weight, since the armour is pants and it is slow. Does prepare you for the better mediums down the line, but trying to avoid getting hit. But for the fun, 7 The T-34-1 had a good gun, reasonable turret and was quite mobile. But the gun depression sucked, plus the accuracy was pants, and I just never liked it. Bought the 34-2 which was more of the same and rage sold it. Would probably give it a 5. The T43 is very bland IMO, is seems to do everything OK. OK speed, OK armour, dpm OK, alpha and pen OK. Will give it an OK 6. So what I am trying to say is have not played enough T7 mediums Isn't the VK 30.02 or KV-13 good though? Don't like facing either when same tier or below (again never played them) I heard the 34-2 is the worst tier VIII in any class or category. Not a surprise you rage sold it. For the KV-13, the armour is slightly better than the IS and it's faster, but the gun is just atrocious. I haven't looked but I'm guessing the view range is sub-par too. The VK 30.02 (D) suffers from poor gun choices from what I can see. Using the L/56 it might be alright if you can flank or spam premium out of it. It kind of looks out classed by the Aufkl. Panther, which means it's probably bad too(even though I said I wouldn't include premiums, and the aufkl isn't even a med, it pretty much is because it's a panther).
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Post by Atom Priest on Nov 20, 2016 23:06:32 GMT
I'll go on about the Pantser now. It's kind of like the Comet imo, in that it's versatile. Obviously in a different way. What the Panther has is reasonable speed and balanced hull and turret armour. Not super good, but if you angle well you can get a good amount of bounces from it especially if you sidescrape. It also has good gun depression which is unique for a German tank. The gun is a mixed bag. I've been playing the shit out of the Panther since I've come back and I've grown to love it. The 198mm of pen plus the 0.32 accuracy is amazing. You don't need to spam premium when you can pen most weak spots from a distance. Unlike the Comet, this makes the Panther perform equally as good even in heavy tier IX games. It's also pretty sturdy with it's large hit point pool. What buries the panther though is the pathetic water gun alpha of 135 combined with mediocre rate of fire, giving it lacklustre DPM. This makes it hard to carry in some situations because you simply cannot do enough damage quick enough to turn the tide. The tank also turns like a fucking whale and is enormous making flanking pretty much impossible. Can't mount vertical stabiliser either which can be awkward when you want to actually hit something.
I'd give it 8/10 like the comet.
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Post by Atom Priest on Nov 21, 2016 8:54:49 GMT
So the Chi Reeeeeeee is absolutely terrible. End of. It is probably the worst tier VII med. It's bigger than a Panther with no armour. The gun does not make it a good medium. It is kind of like the T54E1. Gun is alright, but the tank itself is just shit. You're a fucking moron if you think it's a good medium. You should probably check yourself into a mental health clinic. You've got a problem there buddy.
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Post by did 1 kill you on Nov 21, 2016 13:34:30 GMT
The VK30.02D is excellent. I don't like mediums much but this is currently my favourite tank in the game. Yes it's pen is low and alpha us shit but it's a spot and slot tank. Outspots most things and can shift once spotted. It does well for me in higher tier games but when top tier it's dpm is good.
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Post by Atom Priest on Nov 21, 2016 14:02:09 GMT
Meh. It's still worse than the comet. I'd give it a 7.3/10
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Post by THEpotatoskreb on Nov 21, 2016 16:19:25 GMT
So the Chi Reeeeeeee is absolutely terrible. End of. It is probably the worst tier VII med. It's bigger than a Panther with no armour. The gun does not make it a good medium. It is kind of like the T54E1. Gun is alright, but the tank itself is just shit. You're a fucking moron if you think it's a good medium. You should probably check yourself into a mental health clinic. You've got a problem there buddy. Jibber jibber. Wow you are angry, suggest you check yourself in there first. I said it was fun, for me at least, not that it is good. I think there is a distinction. It is big as a house, with poor stats in most things. You are pretty fucked against 9's, but that's true of most of them.
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Post by Atom Priest on Nov 21, 2016 17:52:23 GMT
So the Chi Reeeeeeee is absolutely terrible. End of. It is probably the worst tier VII med. It's bigger than a Panther with no armour. The gun does not make it a good medium. It is kind of like the T54E1. Gun is alright, but the tank itself is just shit. You're a fucking moron if you think it's a good medium. You should probably check yourself into a mental health clinic. You've got a problem there buddy. Jibber jibber. Wow you are angry, suggest you check yourself in there first. I said it was fun, for me at least, not that it is good. I think there is a distinction. It is big as a house, with poor stats in most things. You are pretty fucked against 9's, but that's true of most of them. They wouldn't even admit me to a loony hospital. Too much trouble.
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Post by ll SkagPipe ll on Nov 21, 2016 20:03:22 GMT
Chi-Ri is fun.
KV-13 is a workhorse.
None are great.
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Post by Atom Priest on Nov 21, 2016 20:54:17 GMT
I'd rather bee in the A-44 than the KV-13. Actually, the A-44 looks pretty interesting with the sidescraping potential and high alpha.
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Post by Skankhunt42 on Nov 21, 2016 23:20:57 GMT
T20 is pretty good IMO
The Panther is good in it's niche, the problem is the Tiger is better in that niche, and pretty much any if the other niches.
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Post by Atom Priest on Nov 22, 2016 9:50:15 GMT
The T20 is worse than the T25/2. Same gun, but the /2 has better rof and godly turret by comparison. The T20 just goes faster but loses all armour and the DPM is shit.
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Post by heg82 on Nov 22, 2016 10:22:31 GMT
The T20 is my baby, i love the T-34-1 and the Chi-Ri is crap but fun and somewhat working crap.
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Post by Racist Snowflake on Nov 22, 2016 18:21:14 GMT
From what I've played: Tank | Good | Bad | Comet | Gun Depression, Speed, semi-trolly turret | Aim time and derpiness | T34-1 | Turret Armour and Alpha | Aim time and inaccurate
| T20 | Alpha, gun depression, APCR Pen | Armor and sluggish turning speed | Panther | AP Pen, semi-usable hull armor | Turning radius and DPM | Chi-ri | Autoloader (390 burst damage every 8 seconds), HP pool is better than some tier 7 heavies | Large and not really fast, no armour, bad APCR pen
| T43 | Accuracy with decent alpha, pretty nimble too | AP Pen is 144, load that gold
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edit: T43, not T44
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Post by Atom Priest on Nov 22, 2016 18:33:21 GMT
It's 390 average burst damage for the Chi Reeeeeee
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Post by Racist Snowflake on Nov 22, 2016 18:43:10 GMT
It's 390 average burst damage for the Chi Reeeeeee Fixed
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