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Post by flynlion on Oct 14, 2016 1:24:31 GMT
Can someone explain why Russian airmen and RAF airmen are now authorized to shoot at each other? I thought we were all fighting ISIS?
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Post by Skankhunt42 on Oct 14, 2016 2:18:25 GMT
Can someone explain why Russian airmen and RAF airmen are now authorized to shoot at each other? I thought we were all fighting ISIS? Where are you reading that? And russia is fighting isis by supporting assad, everyone else is "fighting isis" by considering bombing assad's forces, which russia has already said would cause retaliation from them. The world is risking WW3 over a 3rd world shithole, and the worst part of it all, is that Russia is the one in the right.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Oct 14, 2016 15:09:50 GMT
Can someone explain why Russian airmen and RAF airmen are now authorized to shoot at each other? I thought we were all fighting ISIS? I don't think they are. I haven't heard of it. But one would assume that the general idea is that pilots would be allowed to return fire if hostile action were taken against them first. In the end it all comes to down to the individual officer's judgement.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Oct 14, 2016 15:12:29 GMT
Can someone explain why Russian airmen and RAF airmen are now authorized to shoot at each other? I thought we were all fighting ISIS? Where are you reading that? And russia is fighting isis by supporting assad, everyone else is "fighting isis" by considering bombing assad's forces, which russia has already said would cause retaliation from them. The world is risking WW3 over a 3rd world shithole, and the worst part of it all, is that Russia is the one in the right. How is Russia in the right? Isn't Assad a crackpot dictator that murders his own people?
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Post by flynlion on Oct 14, 2016 16:32:18 GMT
Can someone explain why Russian airmen and RAF airmen are now authorized to shoot at each other? I thought we were all fighting ISIS? I don't think they are. I haven't heard of it. But one would assume that the general idea is that pilots would be allowed to return fire if hostile action were taken against them first. In the end it all comes to down to the individual officer's judgement. I'll have to dig around for the quote, but yeah the gist of it was that RAF crews are now "authorized" to defend themselves against Russian air threats. My question is why either force is would even carry air to air weapons if we are all fighting the same enemy? Does ISIS have an air force now? Or is the RAF shooting at Assad's Air Force and the Russian's are protesting this? I'm confused (not the first time).
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Oct 14, 2016 16:51:13 GMT
I don't think they are. I haven't heard of it. But one would assume that the general idea is that pilots would be allowed to return fire if hostile action were taken against them first. In the end it all comes to down to the individual officer's judgement. I'll have to dig around for the quote, but yeah the gist of it was that RAF crews are now "authorized" to defend themselves against Russian air threats. My question is why either force is would even carry air to air weapons if we are all fighting the same enemy? Does ISIS have an air force now? Or is the RAF shooting at Assad's Air Force and the Russian's are protesting this? I'm confused (not the first time). Because we're basically in a Second Cold War, and Syria is just another proxy war.
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Post by flynlion on Oct 14, 2016 17:08:40 GMT
I'll have to dig around for the quote, but yeah the gist of it was that RAF crews are now "authorized" to defend themselves against Russian air threats. My question is why either force is would even carry air to air weapons if we are all fighting the same enemy? Does ISIS have an air force now? Or is the RAF shooting at Assad's Air Force and the Russian's are protesting this? I'm confused (not the first time). Because we're basically in a Second Cold War, and Syria is just another proxy war. But we are all fighting the same enemy, are we not? Russia is backing Assad, I get that, but everybody is fighting ISIS, and they don't even have an air force (yet). Why is there even an air-to-air threat?
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Oct 14, 2016 18:02:13 GMT
Because we're basically in a Second Cold War, and Syria is just another proxy war. But we are all fighting the same enemy, are we not? Russia is backing Assad, I get that, but everybody is fighting ISIS, and they don't even have an air force (yet). Why is there even an air-to-air threat? Russia seems more concerned with propping up Assad than actually fighting Daesh for what it is.
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Post by flynlion on Oct 14, 2016 19:44:46 GMT
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Oct 14, 2016 20:00:33 GMT
Yeah, it's as I expected. It's just to give them something to shoot back with if the Russians try to pull anything. Besides, that article's over a year old, so it's not exactly some new development.
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Post by Skankhunt42 on Oct 14, 2016 20:21:34 GMT
Where are you reading that? And russia is fighting isis by supporting assad, everyone else is "fighting isis" by considering bombing assad's forces, which russia has already said would cause retaliation from them. The world is risking WW3 over a 3rd world shithole, and the worst part of it all, is that Russia is the one in the right. How is Russia in the right? Isn't Assad a crackpot dictator that murders his own people? He is a dictator who also is interested in destroying ISIS and keeping Islamic radicals out of his country. Not a nice guy, but he has common interests with us. Russia is right, if either of us start bombing him it would be idiotic and probably lead to a war. Bombing Assad's forces helps ISIS and islamc radicals. We need to be working with russia to deal with ISIS, worry about assad after.
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Post by flynlion on Oct 14, 2016 20:26:29 GMT
Yeah, it's as I expected. It's just to give them something to shoot back with if the Russians try to pull anything. Besides, that article's over a year old, so it's not exactly some new development. Ahh...you're correct about the date. I just saw 11 Oct and thought it was a new twist, guess I should be more careful on the interwebs. It's so confusing about who's fighting who nowadays...
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Oct 14, 2016 20:29:01 GMT
How is Russia in the right? Isn't Assad a crackpot dictator that murders his own people? He is a dictator who also is interested in destroying ISIS and keeping Islamic radicals out of his country. Not a nice guy, but he has common interests with us. Russia is right, if either of us start bombing him it would be idiotic and probably lead to a war. Bombing Assad's forces helps ISIS and islamc radicals. We need to be working with russia to deal with ISIS, worry about assad after. At the minute no one's bombing Assad. Unfortunately Russia also sees fit to bomb groups fighting Daesh as well as Assad, so they're not really helping. Also they blew up an aid convoy. They're attacking Daesh but also fucking it up even more at the same time. They're not there to defeat Daesh, they're there to prop up Assad, which means also bombing the people fighting Daesh.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Oct 15, 2016 17:45:11 GMT
I have a question. What's going on with Douglas Carswell's mouth?
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Dec 2, 2016 9:49:28 GMT
Good god, the Liberal Democrats have won a seat.
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Post by did 1 kill you on Dec 3, 2016 0:32:23 GMT
The last time I voted it was for Margaret Thatcher I would like to kick the shit out of Farage
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Dec 3, 2016 0:59:33 GMT
The last time I voted it was for Margaret Thatcher I would like to kick the shit out of Farage Would be a waste of energy. Hes so stupid he wouldnt feel it
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