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Post by Atom Priest on May 7, 2020 21:05:35 GMT
I don't get what they're saying there in the article about materially false. So is that part of it basically saying he didn't lie on purpose and why he's trying to withdraw his guilty plea? essentially, it's an admission that they had no grounds to even interview him in the first place, and his plea was coerced out of him because he genuinely had nothing to give(probably because nothing ever actually happened)
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Post by El Materdor43 on May 7, 2020 21:18:42 GMT
I don't get what they're saying there in the article about materially false. So is that part of it basically saying he didn't lie on purpose and why he's trying to withdraw his guilty plea? There is no evidence that he lied. His guilty plea was coerced. The DOJ threatened to financially ruin Gen Flynn and his family if he didn’t plead guilty. The notes/memos that go along with exonerate him
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Post by "statistically insignificant" on May 7, 2020 21:21:03 GMT
Now I've been reading and listening to you mouth breathers for a few years. You've taught me a lot, I'm a little slow but I'll try....Fake news! There, did I do it right? Trump's AG does what daddy says and drops charges. Big fucking deal. What else are we to expect? Let me ask you, did the Drano injections work? Are you disinfected yet?
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Post by Le Tank3r on May 7, 2020 21:27:27 GMT
Let me ask you, did the Drano injections work? Are you disinfected yet? They haven't worked for me yet, but maybe a few more will work finally.
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Post by El Materdor43 on May 7, 2020 21:30:53 GMT
Now I've been reading and listening to you mouth breathers for a few years. You've taught me a lot, I'm a little slow but I'll try....Fake news! There, did I do it right? Trump's AG does what daddy says and drops charges. Big fucking deal. What else are we to expect? Let me ask you, did the Drano injections work? Are you disinfected yet? You can’t even get that right. It’s Lysol and yes they worked perfectly
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Post by JesterUSMC on May 7, 2020 21:31:08 GMT
Now I've been reading and listening to you mouth breathers for a few years. You've taught me a lot, I'm a little slow but I'll try....Fake news! There, did I do it right? Trump's AG does what daddy says and drops charges. Big fucking deal. What else are we to expect? Let me ask you, did the Drano injections work? Are you disinfected yet? I figured this would be the response.
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Post by "statistically insignificant" on May 7, 2020 21:42:14 GMT
Now I've been reading and listening to you mouth breathers for a few years. You've taught me a lot, I'm a little slow but I'll try....Fake news! There, did I do it right? Trump's AG does what daddy says and drops charges. Big fucking deal. What else are we to expect? Let me ask you, did the Drano injections work? Are you disinfected yet? I figured this would be the response. Wow! Word for word? You are one smart guy!
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Post by El Materdor43 on May 7, 2020 21:45:26 GMT
Now I've been reading and listening to you mouth breathers for a few years. You've taught me a lot, I'm a little slow but I'll try....Fake news! There, did I do it right? Trump's AG does what daddy says and drops charges. Big fucking deal. What else are we to expect? Let me ask you, did the Drano injections work? Are you disinfected yet? Here is the real issue with all of this. It’s not fake news, it’s the use of the full investigative power and jurisprudence of the federal government to influence/change the outcome of the 2016 election. The irony is that the Dems and the Dems in the media were the ones accusing the Trump transition/administration of this
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Post by "statistically insignificant" on May 7, 2020 22:24:32 GMT
Now I've been reading and listening to you mouth breathers for a few years. You've taught me a lot, I'm a little slow but I'll try....Fake news! There, did I do it right? Trump's AG does what daddy says and drops charges. Big fucking deal. What else are we to expect? Let me ask you, did the Drano injections work? Are you disinfected yet? Here is the real issue with all of this. It’s not fake news, it’s the use of the full investigative power and jurisprudence of the federal government to influence/change the outcome of the 2016 election. The irony is that the Dems and the Dems in the media were the ones accusing the Trump transition/administration of this You do know, back in April a Republican lead Senate committee reported that it backs US intelligence on Russian election interference? I'm sure FOX didn't say much about it, you probably missed it. Is this another Democrat conspiracy? Tin foil hats engaged....
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Post by JesterUSMC on May 7, 2020 22:48:12 GMT
Here is the real issue with all of this. It’s not fake news, it’s the use of the full investigative power and jurisprudence of the federal government to influence/change the outcome of the 2016 election. The irony is that the Dems and the Dems in the media were the ones accusing the Trump transition/administration of this You do know, back in April a Republican lead Senate committee reported that it backs US intelligence on Russian election interference? I'm sure FOX didn't say much about it, you probably missed it. Is this another Democrat conspiracy? Tin foil hats engaged.... His reelection will be a pretty shitty time for you...
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Post by El Materdor43 on May 7, 2020 23:24:12 GMT
Here is the real issue with all of this. It’s not fake news, it’s the use of the full investigative power and jurisprudence of the federal government to influence/change the outcome of the 2016 election. The irony is that the Dems and the Dems in the media were the ones accusing the Trump transition/administration of this You do know, back in April a Republican lead Senate committee reported that it backs US intelligence on Russian election interference? I'm sure FOX didn't say much about it, you probably missed it. Is this another Democrat conspiracy? Tin foil hats engaged.... I’m well aware of that committee. The senator who chairs that committee is from my state. He is also one of the senators who dumped stock prior to the forced Covid shutdowns. The part that is omitted from most stories about that committee is that Mark Warner from Virginia actually runs that committee. Burr is an empty suit
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Post by El Materdor43 on May 7, 2020 23:33:07 GMT
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Post by "statistically insignificant" on May 7, 2020 23:45:32 GMT
You do know, back in April a Republican lead Senate committee reported that it backs US intelligence on Russian election interference? I'm sure FOX didn't say much about it, you probably missed it. Is this another Democrat conspiracy? Tin foil hats engaged.... His reelection will be a pretty shitty time for you... Burn!! It's already a shitty time for me. What's the difference?
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Post by "statistically insignificant" on May 8, 2020 1:34:03 GMT
Now I've been reading and listening to you mouth breathers for a few years. You've taught me a lot, I'm a little slow but I'll try....Fake news! There, did I do it right? Trump's AG does what daddy says and drops charges. Big fucking deal. What else are we to expect? Let me ask you, did the Drano injections work? Are you disinfected yet? I figured this would be the response. The guy plead guilty TWICE. Once on paper, once to a judge. How was I supposed to respond?
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Post by Snorelacks on May 8, 2020 14:26:33 GMT
Now I've been reading and listening to you mouth breathers for a few years. You've taught me a lot, I'm a little slow but I'll try....Fake news! There, did I do it right? Trump's AG does what daddy says and drops charges. Big fucking deal. What else are we to expect? Let me ask you, did the Drano injections work? Are you disinfected yet? I'd have expected better from you being a Liberal and holding civil liberties so dear. They had already tapped his phone and knew the contents of his discussion with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, yet went over there anyway circumventing all protocols (Comey admitted this) with the intention of getting him fired or running him into a perjury trap. The fact that they knew he didn't lie (McCabe under oath testified that the two agents who interviewed Flynn felt he was truthful), but pressed on is egregious. Yet they threatened to go after his son if he didn't plead and brought the full weight and force of the Federal Government down on him to the tune of over $6M is legal fees, the loss of his job and the loss of his home. Here's another question related to lying to the FBI. Both McCabe and Strok were proven to have lied to the FBI, yet the charges were dropped. Why would they have gotten a pass if Flynn was prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? What about Clapper who lied under congressional oath, not once, but twice. Why wasn't he prosecuted? If it was such a strong case, why did the lead prosecuter recuse himself two days ago once it was discovered that he withheld exculpatory evidence that the judge requested the prosecution turn over? Why was the 302 edited by a non-agent? Why did they take 3 months to produce it when Bureau regulations give 3 business days? Why were two 302s ultimately provided when there should only ever be one? Why Did Strok reopen the case when it had been closed because Flynn didn't lie? This isn't a Republican or Democrat issue, it's an American issue. How many other citizens has the FBI or Federal government railroaded? How do they defend themselves against a a Federal Agent of agency hellbent on burying them? Would you have the resources to fight the government if they wanted to prosecute you for something? This is not good. Additionally, the FISA warrants should have never been issued and reissued. They wouldn't have reached an acceptable threshold for issuance of the warrant for "Crossfire Hurricane" and spying on Carter Page without the so called "Steele Dossier". 1). They had good reason to believe it was part of a Russian disinformation campaign, 2) McCabe admitted during Schiff's Secret interview that they couldn't prove that any of it was true, yet they submitted it anyway. The 53 "Secret Schiff Interviews" are now released...go read them... not in any of them did anyone have any proof that there was any collusion with Russia. Every single interview came to the conclusion...there was no evidence of any collusion. Yet Schiff sat there for years almost everyday on TV claiming he had irrefutable proof. The whole thing was a sham borne of sour grapes firstly because Trump won the nomination (we have to sully him before the election), and then because he actually won (we have to force him out). I think you know I think Trump is an absolute Dickhead, but if you're objective about how all this crap unfolded and is now unraveling it has to give you great pause over how our governmental investigative and intelligence agencies don't have enough oversight, particularly career unelected bureaucrats who get so entrenched behind the "green curtain" that they can go rogue.
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Post by JesterUSMC on May 8, 2020 15:03:53 GMT
"Obama officials were questioned over whether they had or had seen evidence of such collusion, coordination or conspiracy -- the issue that drove the FBI's initial case and later the special counsel probe."
Director of National Intelligence James Clapper - 2017 - “I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election. That’s not to say that there weren’t concerns about the evidence we were seeing, anecdotal evidence. ... But I do not recall any instance where I had direct evidence.”
Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power - “I am not in possession of anything—I am not in possession and didn’t read or absorb information that came from out of the intelligence community.”
When asked again, she affirmed - “I am not.”
Obama National Security Adviser Susan Rice - “To the best of my recollection, there wasn’t anything smoking, but there were some things that gave me pause.". "I don’t recall intelligence that I would consider evidence to that effect that I saw…conspiracy prior to my departure.”
When asked whether she had any evidence of “coordination" - “I don’t recall any intelligence or evidence to that effect.”
"Collusion" - “Same answer.”
Former Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes - “I wouldn’t have received any information on any criminal or counterintelligence investigations into what the Trump campaign was doing, so I would not have seen that information,”
When pressed for an answer - “I saw indications of potential coordination, but I did not see, you know, the specific evidence of the actions of the Trump campaign.”
Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch - "(did) not recall that being briefed up to me." "I can't say that it existed or not."
Deputy Director Andrew McCabe (When asked about the accuracy and legitimacy of the unverified anti-Trump dossier compiled by ex-British intelligence officer Christopher Steele) “...damning or important piece of evidence in the dossier that” he “now knows is true.” - “We have not been able to prove the accuracy of all the information.”
“You don’t know if it’s true or not?” - House Member.
“That’s correct.” - McCabe
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Post by El Materdor43 on May 8, 2020 15:18:16 GMT
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Post by "statistically insignificant" on May 8, 2020 15:59:11 GMT
"Obama officials were questioned over whether they had or had seen evidence of such collusion, coordination or conspiracy -- the issue that drove the FBI's initial case and later the special counsel probe." Director of National Intelligence James Clapper - 2017 - “I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election. That’s not to say that there weren’t concerns about the evidence we were seeing, anecdotal evidence. ... But I do not recall any instance where I had direct evidence.” Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power - “I am not in possession of anything—I am not in possession and didn’t read or absorb information that came from out of the intelligence community.” When asked again, she affirmed - “I am not.” Obama National Security Adviser Susan Rice - “To the best of my recollection, there wasn’t anything smoking, but there were some things that gave me pause.". "I don’t recall intelligence that I would consider evidence to that effect that I saw…conspiracy prior to my departure.” When asked whether she had any evidence of “coordination" - “I don’t recall any intelligence or evidence to that effect.” "Collusion" - “Same answer.” Former Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes - “I wouldn’t have received any information on any criminal or counterintelligence investigations into what the Trump campaign was doing, so I would not have seen that information,” When pressed for an answer - “I saw indications of potential coordination, but I did not see, you know, the specific evidence of the actions of the Trump campaign.” Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch - "(did) not recall that being briefed up to me." "I can't say that it existed or not." Deputy Director Andrew McCabe (When asked about the accuracy and legitimacy of the unverified anti-Trump dossier compiled by ex-British intelligence officer Christopher Steele) “...damning or important piece of evidence in the dossier that” he “now knows is true.” - “We have not been able to prove the accuracy of all the information.” “You don’t know if it’s true or not?” - House Member. “That’s correct.” - McCabe Wow!! How many speeders zoomed by while you were typing this?
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Post by Atom Priest on May 8, 2020 16:23:00 GMT
The thing is, the Russians did interfere in the election just as every other country interferes in the affairs of every other country. You know what Russia did? They made facebook posts. Wow. Big deal. IIRC the fake posts and pages only had a combined reach of ~300 000 views. Wow. Amazing. Much collusion. Very puppet state.
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Post by Atom Priest on May 8, 2020 16:24:43 GMT
Wow!! How many speeders zoomed by while you were typing this? Not a rebuttal
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