Played my first random battle since 8.0 dropped today.

I've been struggling to enjoy enjoy the CVs since these stupid hotfixes. If this is how they're going to stay, I'm done. Sure I was bottom tier, but I just flew too close to a Wooster and lost all my planes. Sure we won, I did NOTHING to contribute to that except spot. My team told me to fly around and spot the other team so thats what I did. Tried a torp run on a Montana and he managed to dodge all my torps. I'd rather do a shit job in a CA or BB and die in the first 5 minutes than do this. I feel like the harder I try the more I miss and the less fun I have. This has been my average the past two days. My best was a 50k damage in the stupid saipan, it was a loss. If I'm just going to spot damage then remove all the ordinance from my planes and reward me for spotting.

I was playing a few games in my Massechusetts. I expected CV attention and had my usual seconardary/AA spec captain in it. It took a few games but I finally got targeted with multiple attacks. His first attack I was able to dodge multiple drops and only absorbed one. He sent his bombers after me then harrassed the DD with his rockets. He finally got me on his second try with the torps. I think if I would have kept cruising straight after his final drop I would have dodged them all. Took down 14 of his planes before sinking. This was a Midway too. It was the only time I felt like I was focused and also the only time I was sunk by a CV. Wasn't nearly as fustrating as playing a CV. His attacks were pretty predictable. It was also fun watching the sky fill with little black flak puffs too.

I played 5 or 6 random battles in 0.8.0, and a few ranked games. But it left such a sour taste that I haven't played since the first hotfix. On the other hand...I'm really enjoying Apex Legends and Mad Max.

I lament that this rework and hotfix fiasco may be the death of the CV class entirely. I do believe that they have a place in this game, considering aircraft carriers altered the future of naval combat so significantly. Their original iteration may have had its flaws, but at least it was workable and functional.

Many might disagree, but I believe they have a place in a naval combat game.

Prior to 0.8.0 I could probably count on both hands the amount of times I played back to back matches with CV's in random games at higher tiers. It just wasn't that frequent. CV's were probably in maybe 2 out of 10 games from tier 7 up, if that, and lots of times neither player was particularly skilled (especially at lower tiers)

I have been killed in my BB's WAY more often by a DD than any CV, without question. It just wasn't as frequent, in my experience anyways. Besides, a Unicum is a Unicum, no matter what class they play. A top level player is going to dramatically affect the outcome of the game in a BB, just as much as a CV could.


I certainly agree that it is difficult to properly muzzle the power of such a weapon and balance it for gameplay purposes, but I firmly believe the older system was a much better one to this. Some minor tweaks were all it really needed. Removal of strafe across all tiers, 3 attack squads and 1 fighter max, slight lowering of air dropped torp damage, increased arming distance to give more time to react, or even a removal of manual drops altogether would have helped drastically, without wrecking the class.

CV's had a much more direct method of supporting teammates. Proper fighter cover prevented a red CV from permaspotting stealth based ships such as DD's. You could severely disrupt an air attack with proper situational awareness.

The new system has basically removed a CV's ability to mitigate air attacks or permaspotting

These reworks are not tailored towards average players. They are not meant to make the class easier for newer players to CV's, they are not meant to streamline the use of the class, and they are not intended to improve AA, balance stealth DD's, or stop good players from dominating.

These changes are probably all in the name of porting the game to xbox. On xbox there will be limited numbers of lines, like the reworked cv lines. The controls for AA, specifically the firing zone bullshit, appears designed for ease of use with a controller( it feels clunky and invasive with the stupid overlay)
The method of control and attack for planes seems specifically targeted to players using a controller. That would probably explain why you cant really look around in planes with free look without altering their course. One control stick on xbox for controlling speed and altitude, the other to control direction.

FIFY.....

Edit: umm, for some reason my iPad keeps eating anything I write in the quote box so it shows as blank to me. Can’t tell if it reall is blank or just doesn’t render on this thing. 

I was was trying to say: “CV’s are going to need a lot of work to be viable.”