ZER01025
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Clan tag: BNKR
Is R35T a Skreb?: No
Date registered: Mar 1, 2016 14:07:16 GMT
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Post by ZER01025 on Jan 21, 2019 22:26:11 GMT
I highly recommend "testing" or practicing the new rework. That way you can be one step ahead of everyone else next week when this goes live. Even if you don't play CVs, unlock your favorite ship or AA ship and play with the new captain skills! Find out how you want your captains spec'd BEFORE the rework! That way you aren't trying to cram everything in a week. Kinda like studying before a big exam. Sure it's just stupid bots but it's better practice than no practice at all. It'd also be nice to play with some fellow BNKR members too. Last test there was only 500 people playing on sunday night compared to the 17k on the live server! Hope to see you there! worldofwarships.com/en/news/public-test/public-test-080/
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ZER01025
Captain
Posts: 1,196
Likes: 781
Console: Xbox 360 & One
Clan tag: BNKR
Is R35T a Skreb?: No
Date registered: Mar 1, 2016 14:07:16 GMT
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Post by ZER01025 on Jan 24, 2019 22:58:14 GMT
Welp, they took the "overpwered" AA from round 2 and actually made it overpowered! You won't noticed this until Tier 8 and 10. It goes from being fun to just straight flying into a wall of black smoke. Flak so thick I can barely see my target! All these planes you see here? All died merclessly seconds after this screenshot was taken. They didn't even get a chance to shoot their rockets. Note the formation of the bot ships! What's that bot Bismarck doing? Pictures of the flak filled skies, it actually gets worse! Here is my shot of how many planes I lost compared to my pitiful amount of damage. Worst part is I could do more damage in tiers 4 and 6 but still lose planes, but nothing like this! Don't worry, I gave my feedback to WG but I wanted to rant a little here. Hope it gets better before going live!
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ZER01025
Captain
Posts: 1,196
Likes: 781
Console: Xbox 360 & One
Clan tag: BNKR
Is R35T a Skreb?: No
Date registered: Mar 1, 2016 14:07:16 GMT
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Post by ZER01025 on Jan 24, 2019 23:03:46 GMT
I want to add that I did try dodging the flak but it's pretty hard when it's EVERYWHERE! I also saved my engine boost for my attack runs and would immedietly send my planes back to carrier afyer the first run. This method kinda worked also produced little damage (it's harder to aim accurately when rushed) and I did the same thing in battle where I lost 64 planes, didn't seem to help much. Also at the end of that battle my "endless" planes were taking forever to reload.
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ZER01025
Captain
Posts: 1,196
Likes: 781
Console: Xbox 360 & One
Clan tag: BNKR
Is R35T a Skreb?: No
Date registered: Mar 1, 2016 14:07:16 GMT
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Post by ZER01025 on Jan 24, 2019 23:31:39 GMT
Here's my last Midway game. Would you grind through the other ships to do a lousy 30k damage when you can do twice as good in tier 4? 61 planes shot down too! Stupid storm didn't help visability either.
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Ron James Dio
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Date registered: Mar 29, 2016 12:57:01 GMT
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Post by Ron James Dio on Jan 25, 2019 0:08:56 GMT
Doesnt sound like too much fun. Isn't the update dropping very soon? It sounds like AA is ridiculous. Especially if it clouds your vision and aim.
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ZER01025
Captain
Posts: 1,196
Likes: 781
Console: Xbox 360 & One
Clan tag: BNKR
Is R35T a Skreb?: No
Date registered: Mar 1, 2016 14:07:16 GMT
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Post by ZER01025 on Jan 25, 2019 0:27:21 GMT
Doesnt sound like too much fun. Isn't the update dropping very soon? It sounds like AA is ridiculous. Especially if it clouds your vision and aim. I'm honestly royally pissed! If they don't change it I will be selling the Hak and probably my Lex and Shokaku and keeping the xp for something else. I'm really, really hoping they're smart enough to tone it down. How else do they expect to sell premium CVs since they're all tier 8? Saving them to play co-op is a joke too. especially if the bots are going to be as smart and dodgy as the ones I've been playing against!
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Ron James Dio
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Post by Ron James Dio on Jan 25, 2019 3:12:48 GMT
Doesnt sound like too much fun. Isn't the update dropping very soon? It sounds like AA is ridiculous. Especially if it clouds your vision and aim. I'm honestly royally pissed! If they don't change it I will be selling the Hak and probably my Lex and Shokaku and keeping the xp for something else. I'm really, really hoping they're smart enough to tone it down. How else do they expect to sell premium CVs since they're all tier 8? Saving them to play co-op is a joke too. especially if the bots are going to be as smart and dodgy as the ones I've been playing against! This is exactly the thing I was worried about with them changing CV in the first place. They release the update in what, 4 days? How drastically can it change from now until then? I dont see a very high likelyhood that once the update is implemented that they reverse it. How few people will be playing CV's now? It was a rare occurance to run into high tier cv's before. Also how will the cv's affect low tier games, where there is little to no AA on ships? No manual drop to nerf in order to balance it now. Its only manual drop now haha
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ZER01025
Captain
Posts: 1,196
Likes: 781
Console: Xbox 360 & One
Clan tag: BNKR
Is R35T a Skreb?: No
Date registered: Mar 1, 2016 14:07:16 GMT
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Post by ZER01025 on Jan 25, 2019 4:11:57 GMT
I'm honestly royally pissed! If they don't change it I will be selling the Hak and probably my Lex and Shokaku and keeping the xp for something else. I'm really, really hoping they're smart enough to tone it down. How else do they expect to sell premium CVs since they're all tier 8? Saving them to play co-op is a joke too. especially if the bots are going to be as smart and dodgy as the ones I've been playing against! This is exactly the thing I was worried about with them changing CV in the first place. They release the update in what, 4 days? How drastically can it change from now until then? I dont see a very high likelyhood that once the update is implemented that they reverse it. How few people will be playing CV's now? It was a rare occurance to run into high tier cv's before. Also how will the cv's affect low tier games, where there is little to no AA on ships? No manual drop to nerf in order to balance it now. Its only manual drop now haha I'm mad they took something great (PT2) and shat all over it becuase a few "CCs" and unicums whined on the forum saying it was hackable. Now they get their special place and there will still be a skill gap. It was explained to me on the other forum how I can avoid this, I'm trying it now with no success. I'm pretty upset becuase less than a week ago I was excited for this, now I'd almost rather play RTS in coop for the rest of my days. Forget about playing randoms (something I was looking fowatd to doing). It's a total kick in the balls and makes all the time I spent on seem like a complete waste. They took one pain in the ass and replaced it with a new one!
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ZER01025
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Posts: 1,196
Likes: 781
Console: Xbox 360 & One
Clan tag: BNKR
Is R35T a Skreb?: No
Date registered: Mar 1, 2016 14:07:16 GMT
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Post by ZER01025 on Jan 25, 2019 4:14:49 GMT
With how it is currently I actually do better juggling 8 stupid squadrens throwing planes at anything that floats. Now I just fly around and maybe do some damage and get shot down out of the sky. They sucked all the fun out of it!
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ZER01025
Captain
Posts: 1,196
Likes: 781
Console: Xbox 360 & One
Clan tag: BNKR
Is R35T a Skreb?: No
Date registered: Mar 1, 2016 14:07:16 GMT
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Post by ZER01025 on Jan 25, 2019 5:38:15 GMT
Here's the response I got on the other forum about dealing with flak. I did finally get a 95k game tonight, lost 51 planes in the process. While this seems like simple advice, it's a pain in the ass to apply. While I'm not micromanaging 8 squads like before, manually aiming rockets, torps, and bombs on ships trying to dodge me constantly while avoiding death like flak and speeding up/slowing down/speeding up adjustung altitude is just a pain in the ass. The whole using islands thing doesn't work for me either. Can't use it for torps becuase you need room to drop them, and since the 3rd beta I avioded flying over islands becuase it seemed like it was easier for AA to shoot me down. Last but not least, today I tried to be sneaky a d fly around a big mountain and use it for cover. This was also the last ship on the map. I still lost planes! Alright so I'm done whining now. I will accept my losses and move on. Atleast try too.
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Ron James Dio
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Post by Ron James Dio on Jan 25, 2019 8:32:13 GMT
The thing is, there is always going to be a skill gap no matter what tweaks they do. The old system wasnt perfect, by any means, and it was a lot of micro if you want to manual drop all the squadrons, but multi manual drops were still somewhat effective. They were workable.
This new system seems to be a big fuck around. the average player isn't going to know to use these altitude, slowing down and speeding up gimmicks to try and avoid the flak.
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ZER01025
Captain
Posts: 1,196
Likes: 781
Console: Xbox 360 & One
Clan tag: BNKR
Is R35T a Skreb?: No
Date registered: Mar 1, 2016 14:07:16 GMT
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Post by ZER01025 on Jan 25, 2019 15:37:42 GMT
So I finally got a "good" hakuryu game. Did 95k damage lost 55 planes and 23k silver, thats with the 5k doubloon camo too. With premium that would have gotten me a measly 2k silver. This was also a "win". I spent most of the time spamming torpedoes using Fara's unrealistic goofy multi drop technique.
Bombs are just about useless on this thing. DDs turn to fast even if I try to predict what they're going to do. Going after bigger ships just gets your planes shredded by AA. I did get two hits on a Yamato but thats it.
Get this, I got 3 floodings, but 0 damage from the floodings! LMAO!!!! Most importantly, I didn't enjoy it at all!
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ZER01025
Captain
Posts: 1,196
Likes: 781
Console: Xbox 360 & One
Clan tag: BNKR
Is R35T a Skreb?: No
Date registered: Mar 1, 2016 14:07:16 GMT
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Post by ZER01025 on Jan 25, 2019 16:25:56 GMT
Another "win" in the midway with simular results. 95k damage with 51 planes lost along with 59k silver loss (again with the 5k doubloon camo). With premium I only would have lost 21k silver. I got most of my damage spamming rockets this time. The bombers and rocket planes had no chance against the AA. I tried "using the islands" without success. It just completely ruins your target bloom. I slowed down once only to watch the entire squadren get destroyed within seconds!
Also, for the second time in a row my computer restarted itself after the game ended!
Seriously do these fucking devs even try to test their work? When I did trim carpentry I tested every door I hung before walking away from it. I checked the reveal (the crack between the door and doorjamb). to make sure it was consistant all the way around and made sure it didn't open or close by itself. Why did they decided to destroy the rework a week before release!? I hate to be a debbie downer. I'm done testing this dung heap of a rework. I might goof around in tier 4 or 6 becuase those are still fun. Forget about tier 8 and 10, I'll just hope they change that before it goes live.
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