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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 21:05:48 GMT
Somebody was talking about a German name being censored in wot. They couldn't name their crew after Michael Wittmann. Never heard of him before. I understand there have been terrible things done by notorious people, but I'm not sure I understand why their names would be censored.
I think I can understand why some names would be censored from being used as gamertags. I don't really get why it would be bad to name your crew after a historical person. It's not like most people are going to be seeing the name of your crew unless you show that screen while streaming. I mean I'm not interested in naming my commander after Hitler, but he existed. I don't think we should try to forget that. Anyway, I don't want to argue with anybody. I just want to understand from a different perspective.
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Post by Corporal Derpy on Aug 26, 2018 21:47:03 GMT
Wittmann was a German Tank Ace, who also just so happened to be part of the SS, which it is safe to assume that the majority know what kind of crimes against Humanity they committed.
As to whether he himself did so, I couldn't say. But I can certainly understand the reason to avoid having his name in the game.
They should not be censored entirely, history should never be fully censored so that people can continue to learn from it, however I can understand the sentiment of not allowing players to have their tank commanded by one Adolf Hitler, as that doesn't really serve to let people learn from that, it does the opposite and could effectively glorify them.
Bonfire Night for instance is done in remembrance of Guy Fawkes and that whole plot, but we wouldn't dare go giving people free gunpowder and a ticket to parliament.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 23:33:23 GMT
Wittmann was a German Tank Ace, who also just so happened to be part of the SS, which it is safe to assume that the majority know what kind of crimes against Humanity they committed. As to whether he himself did so, I couldn't say. But I can certainly understand the reason to avoid having his name in the game. They should not be censored entirely, history should never be fully censored so that people can continue to learn from it, however I can understand the sentiment of not allowing players to have their tank commanded by one Adolf Hitler, as that doesn't really serve to let people learn from that, it does the opposite and could effectively glorify them. Bonfire Night for instance is done in remembrance of Guy Fawkes and that whole plot, but we wouldn't dare go giving people free gunpowder and a ticket to parliament. I had to look up Whitmann and the SS because I wasn't familiar with either. When I was learning about all this in school, I wasn't interested in knowing more than what was being taught. And even with that, I think I wanted to know as little as possible on some of the people from that time. After posting this I was thinking that I remembered mention of laws in various European countries that could be part of the reasoning for the ban. That would make the most sense. I can empathize with people not wanting these names to be used with all that happened in the wars. Personally, I wouldn't want to do anything to honor people who have done these kinds of things. I was thinking about it from a free speech standpoint--I think. If my reason for banning the use of a historical name is simply not to glorify them, it would be enough for me, but not good enough from a free speech line of reasoning. |
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Post by Valkyrie on Aug 26, 2018 23:34:22 GMT
An infamous tank ace, but as Derpy pointed out a member of the SS.
He was also notorious for being an utter, arrogant shithead and led his crew in to a slaughter.
And censoring their names in a loosely historical based tank game is not the same is striking the from the annals of history.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 2:41:54 GMT
An infamous tank ace, but as Derpy pointed out a member of the SS. He was also notorious for being an utter, arrogant shithead and led his crew in to a slaughter. And censoring their names in a loosely historical based tank game is not the same is striking the from the annals of history. You both made some good points here that I didn't think of. |
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Post by Snorelacks on Aug 27, 2018 12:41:31 GMT
I'm less concerned about historical figures being omitted from games unless there is some sort of educational benefit to it. I'm more concerned about all of these SJW tearing down statues all over the US in an effort erase history.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 12:56:40 GMT
I'm less concerned about historical figures being omitted from games unless there is some sort of educational benefit to it. I'm more concerned about all of these SJW tearing down statues all over the US in an effort erase history. For sure. I don't understand how they think doing that will help anything. |
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Post by Snorelacks on Aug 27, 2018 13:02:31 GMT
I'm less concerned about historical figures being omitted from games unless there is some sort of educational benefit to it. I'm more concerned about all of these SJW tearing down statues all over the US in an effort erase history. For sure. I don't understand how they think doing that will help anything. It won't, they'll just move on to the next thing that "triggers" them. To most of these folks, America is some dystopian state responsible for all the ills in the world. The only way to placate them is to stand up to them and tell them to STFU and grow a pair of stones and just live life like everyone else has managed to do without being triggered by micro-aggressions, needing safe spaces, pretending like history wasn't bad and good, etc. |
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