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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 1:52:19 GMT
This plan of yours is making me laugh, but I guess it's better than no plan at all. You're probably more likely to get caught in a snow storm. I'm not laughing at your potential scary situation, but you taking tips from the Walking Dead. Lol. you're probably right about getting caught up and dieing in a snow storm I didn't mention dying in one, lol. It's good to know survival skills and all that, but it sounds to me like you might be worrying about these things. When I was your age, I had a lot of anxiety about graduating from school, what to do next, and stuff going on in the world. Since that time, there has been even more events that have happened. I just hope you won't give too much thought and worry over it all. So many people worry over things they will never encounter. Take it from someone who knows too well. |
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Post by Cap'nKaitoGhost on Jul 24, 2018 3:14:57 GMT
OP, based on your listed requirements, I'd probably be looking for a Savage or Ruger Scout rifle in .308. Both have detachable magazines that you would want to stock-up on, but other than that, they offer good performance in an affordable package. I'd prefer that they used M1A/M14 magazines, but only the Mossberg MVP uses those right now and I'm not a fan of their rifles. .308 Winchester/7.62x51 ammo is plentiful, accurate enough, and powerful enough to satisfy your needs. I would also highly recommend a .22 rifle and pistol, a good 12 gauge pump, and your choice of a 9mm semi-auto or a .357 magnum revolver stored securely but where you can access them in a time of need. This provides you with a solid firearm foundation that you can then expand upon if you feel the need. Make sure you have a good supply of ammunition and spare parts for your basics prior to adding additional calibers. One thing I've seen repeatedly amongst my friends and fellow shooters is a partial preparedness mindset that only focuses on weapons. They love to go on and on about how "ready" they are, and what guns and ammo they have, but when I ask about their food/water/first aid supplies they look chagrined and mutter things like "I'll get around to it". They like to focus on the "tactical" and ignore the practical as it is not "fun". I second the Ruger scout/ranch rifles, though I'd recommend 5.56 instead of .308. 5.56 will likely be a more common ammo to scavenge, and be a bit more useful on smaller game than .308. |
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Post by Shhhhh on Jul 24, 2018 8:54:21 GMT
you're probably right about getting caught up and dieing in a snow storm So many people worry over things they will never encounter. Take it from someone who knows too well. And even more are completely dependent on the goverment to save them when it's not equipped to do so. All it takes is a snowstorm, large scale power outage, etc, etc. Not meant to be offensive but you ever see a grocery store before even a moderate snow fall is expected? In a very basic way to look at things. Just think of Aesops fable of the grasshopper and the ant. Which are you, the grasshopper or the ant? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 13:50:44 GMT
So many people worry over things they will never encounter. Take it from someone who knows too well. And even more are completely dependent on the goverment to save them when it's not equipped to do so. All it takes is a snowstorm, large scale power outage, etc, etc. Not meant to be offensive but you ever see a grocery store before even a moderate snow fall is expected? In a very basic way to look at things. Just think of Aesops fable of the grasshopper and the ant. Which are you, the grasshopper or the ant? I understand that Ruthless and I'm not trying to say to anyone not to be prepared or to be foolish. I know what worry can do to a person and I just hope to help someone worry less. |
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Post by I AM The Scouting Authority. on Jul 24, 2018 14:53:12 GMT
OP, based on your listed requirements, I'd probably be looking for a Savage or Ruger Scout rifle in .308. Both have detachable magazines that you would want to stock-up on, but other than that, they offer good performance in an affordable package. I'd prefer that they used M1A/M14 magazines, but only the Mossberg MVP uses those right now and I'm not a fan of their rifles. .308 Winchester/7.62x51 ammo is plentiful, accurate enough, and powerful enough to satisfy your needs. I would also highly recommend a .22 rifle and pistol, a good 12 gauge pump, and your choice of a 9mm semi-auto or a .357 magnum revolver stored securely but where you can access them in a time of need. This provides you with a solid firearm foundation that you can then expand upon if you feel the need. Make sure you have a good supply of ammunition and spare parts for your basics prior to adding additional calibers. One thing I've seen repeatedly amongst my friends and fellow shooters is a partial preparedness mindset that only focuses on weapons. They love to go on and on about how "ready" they are, and what guns and ammo they have, but when I ask about their food/water/first aid supplies they look chagrined and mutter things like "I'll get around to it". They like to focus on the "tactical" and ignore the practical as it is not "fun". I second the Ruger scout/ranch rifles, though I'd recommend 5.56 instead of .308. 5.56 will likely be a more common ammo to scavenge, and be a bit more useful on smaller game than .308. I wouldnt pick the 556 purely for its recorded lack of single shot stopping power against humans. In a survivalist situation I want to know if im defending against an adrenalin hyped human that when I hit him he stays down. |
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Post by CatSnipah on Jul 24, 2018 16:56:37 GMT
Am I the only one who has general concerns over Library owning a firearm?
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Post by je55bunn1 on Jul 24, 2018 17:37:12 GMT
Hi all. Check out Mason Dixion Tactical for info on this subject and other related subjects. This site is very well written and educational. Here's a link where he discusses various firearms that may be ideal for your situation / plan: masondixontactical.wordpress.com/2018/06/23/compact-defense-rifles-for-the-survivalist/The above link is his latest article on the subject, but he has written about it in depth before on this same website. If you are in the USA I would be considering a firearm from the M16 / M4 family. It has a massive following in your country, your military and other goverment agencies use it as well. It's popularity will ensure weapon parts and ammunition availability in times of strife for a long time. This is my first post here, so if my post goes haywire I apologise hahaha GG  |
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Post by Snorelacks on Jul 24, 2018 18:29:37 GMT
Am I the only one who has general concerns over Library owning a firearm? He needs a firearms safety course if he hasn't had one. |
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Post by LIBARYKEEPER483 on Jul 24, 2018 18:30:17 GMT
Am I the only one who has general concerns over Library owning a firearm? Ok that one had me laughing for a while, you don't have to worry that "point" in my teenage life is gone and shooting someone is probably the last thing I'd ever want to do. I just want something I can protect myself with. |
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Post by LIBARYKEEPER483 on Jul 24, 2018 19:02:47 GMT
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Post by RADrage on Jul 25, 2018 10:47:30 GMT
A fucking flamethrower.. KILL and cook yer dinner all at the same time.
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Post by CatSnipah on Jul 25, 2018 14:22:19 GMT
So now you want a rifle in a less common caliber? Sure you can find 30 Cal but 308, 556/223 or 7.62x39 are way more plentiful. So is 22. More important question. Do you know and understand the age requirements for purchasing a rifle, shotgun, pistol? |
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Post by LIBARYKEEPER483 on Jul 25, 2018 14:51:17 GMT
So now you want a rifle in a less common caliber? Sure you can find 30 Cal but 308, 556/223 or 7.62x39 are way more plentiful. So is 22. More important question. Do you know and understand the age requirements for purchasing a rifle, shotgun, pistol? In Indiana you must be 18 to purchase Long Rifles and Shotguns and you must be 21 to purchase handguns with a 2 week background check on handguns. And yeah I really give myself multiple choices instead of one, Honestly a Ruger 22 would probably be a better choice, sure it's a small caliber but you could carry a shit ton of ammo with you at once. I might just go with a Mosin like I originally wanted to use, 7.62x54r is common and cheap....and so is the gun. TBH I don't know dick all about guns and I really need to do some research and test firing before I make a final decision. |
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Post by Cap'nKaitoGhost on Jul 25, 2018 23:24:18 GMT
In that case, learn about firearms before buying. Take firearms safety classes. Learn how to properly clean a firearm. Learn how to properly store one. Learn how to safely shoot one. Once you know all that, then you may consider buying a gun. |
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Post by Snorelacks on Jul 25, 2018 23:49:19 GMT
So now you want a rifle in a less common caliber? Sure you can find 30 Cal but 308, 556/223 or 7.62x39 are way more plentiful. So is 22. More important question. Do you know and understand the age requirements for purchasing a rifle, shotgun, pistol? In Indiana you must be 18 to purchase Long Rifles and Shotguns and you must be 21 to purchase handguns with a 2 week background check on handguns. And yeah I really give myself multiple choices instead of one, Honestly a Ruger 22 would probably be a better choice, sure it's a small caliber but you could carry a shit ton of ammo with you at once. I might just go with a Mosin like I originally wanted to use, 7.62x54r is common and cheap....and so is the gun. TBH I don't know dick all about guns and I really need to do some research and test firing before I make a final decision. Library....take a firearms safety course, buy a .22 rifle and .22 pistol (Ruger 10-22 and SR22 are two good choices), take some shooting lessons from a good instructor that can teach you good habits and then practice until you're extremely comfortable. These skills will last you a lifetime if you maintain them. Then you can think about the larger picture and the calibers and types of firearms you prefer. Good luck. |
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Post by LIBARYKEEPER483 on Jul 26, 2018 0:19:38 GMT
In that case, learn about firearms before buying. Take firearms safety classes. Learn how to properly clean a firearm. Learn how to properly store one. Learn how to safely shoot one. Once you know all that, then you may consider buying a gun. Yeah i'll look into all of that, I'd definitely be way better off talking classes then learning everything myself. You can go ahead and archive this thread as we really don't have anything else to talk about until it's time I purchase a gun, which won't happen until next year. |
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Post by CatSnipah on Jul 26, 2018 0:41:32 GMT
In that case, learn about firearms before buying. Take firearms safety classes. Learn how to properly clean a firearm. Learn how to properly store one. Learn how to safely shoot one. Once you know all that, then you may consider buying a gun. Yeah i'll look into all of that, I'd definitely be way better off talking classes then learning everything myself. You can go ahead and archive this thread as we really don't have anything else to talk about until it's time I purchase a gun, which won't happen until next year. Good for you. Learn to be a responsible gun owner from the start. Be a good Steward of the Second Amendment, not an unsafe derptard that propagates a bad stereotype. |
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