chimonakimi
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Post by chimonakimi on Dec 6, 2017 19:03:19 GMT
Well, for me this update has been the worst so far, not only have I now got to regrind towards the T57 Heavy but my two favourite light tanks in the game, the VK 28.01 and the ELC, have been nerfed to shit. "We're a different game we don't follow PC" My fucking arse, those cunts ruined what were two perfect tanks and gimped them so hard that they're no longer worth playing. Literally the same day I bought them back, which is even more infuriating.
We were told early next year, I bought the VK to 3 mark it before the cancer storm of nerfs, but no, they lied and as a result I got fucked for it. Someone at WG needs common sense beat into them, and they need to stop lying to the player base. Twats.
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Atom Priest
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Post by Atom Priest on Dec 6, 2017 19:28:22 GMT
I will really miss the Vk 28 derp. It was severely underrated, but if you could get it into the right place at the right time it was devastating. I remember carrying a game on swamp. The team was campy trash, so I had to fight a KV-5 with the derp on my own. Took 5 minutes to kill him, but man was he pissed. He managed to blind shoot me once. He ran out of cover in a fit of rage and was quickly finished off. Must have killed multiple crew members on the poor guy. My team fell back because the western side of the map fell, then the red light tanks tried to seize the opportunity and bum rush our two arties. Rammed and derped one of them to death, then I chased down the other one and killed him with the two AP shells I carried, or....used to carry . My team started making a come back. The score evened out but then a fucking hammer went all the way around the map from the castle and started shooting my team in the ass. Most of them were low health so they quickly melted. One of our arties died, but iirc he penned the tiger with AP for huge damage, then me, a sherman and a T25/2 finished him off. That left their arty, an approaching T29 and a Jagdpanther which hadn't been spotted the entire game and had 5 kills. The T29 was alone, and stupid, so the sherman and T25/2 traded with him around a corner. I decided the best thing to do was to drive over the hill and go around the back of him to derp his engine, which I'm glad I did because my two allies lost a lot of health and were panicking their shots and bouncing. Surprise! It;s the Jagdpanther! He's full health and has been camping the ridge on the opposite side the entire game. I got a glimpse of him just as I killed the T29, dodged his shot and heroically ran away to the safety of my fellow greens. Both greens are low health and the JgdPanther was in a really good position, so I couldn't rush him. Instead I sneaked all the way around the eastern part of the map, to find their arty and kill it. i expected the Jagdpanther to camp where he was since he was now alone, but he didn't! He went straight for my buddies. The sherman did well distracting him but quickly fell. The T25/2 went back to the cap and used the beach as hull down cover. I went to the castle area, HEAT loaded, then just as the Jagdpanther finished off the T25/2 and was about to go behind a house, I fired and snapped the shot right into the back of him. I will sorely miss this excellent little tank. When I looked for tips on it after first playing it I found a PC player that had played over 6k games in it. His favourite tank. Cannot imagine how he felt when they changed the lights on PC.
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cyrex005
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Post by cyrex005 on Dec 6, 2017 19:36:31 GMT
Well, for me this update has been the worst so far, not only have I now got to regrind towards the T57 Heavy but my two favourite light tanks in the game, the VK 28.01 and the ELC, have been nerfed to shit. "We're a different game we don't follow PC" My fucking arse, those cunts ruined what were two perfect tanks and gimped them so hard that they're no longer worth playing. Literally the same day I bought them back, which is even more infuriating. We were told early next year, I bought the VK to 3 mark it before the cancer storm of nerfs, but no, they lied and as a result I got fucked for it. Someone at WG needs common sense beat into them, and they need to stop lying to the player base. Twats. They also nerfed the Walker Bulldog too.
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chimonakimi
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Post by chimonakimi on Dec 6, 2017 22:55:08 GMT
The second my three day ban is over I'm making as many complaints as I can, I'm seriously pissed about this one. I can take other nerfs and changes but this is fucking ridiculous, the VK 105 is nothing with the 75, no point in playing the thing. Twats.
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hexarcana
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Post by hexarcana on Dec 7, 2017 1:31:04 GMT
I'm with you, super pissed. I want the gold I put into permanent camo for the 28.01 back, not that I'll do anything with it as I'm so done with Wargaming Chicago-Baltimore.
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chimonakimi
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Post by chimonakimi on Dec 7, 2017 7:57:09 GMT
I'm with you, super pissed. I want the gold I put into permanent camo for the 28.01 back, not that I'll do anything with it as I'm so done with Wargaming Chicago-Baltimore. If they seriously leave the tank as it is I'm done with their shit
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hexarcana
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Post by hexarcana on Dec 7, 2017 23:56:20 GMT
If you look at the nerf barometer for Xbox server, it was the second worst performing tier 6 light, 3rd worst performing of all tier 6 classes. Of all lights across all tiers it was the 4th worst, just above the Kolohousenka lol. I got to 3 marks but not by being all that consistent in it, i just enjoyed the tank so much I played it a helluva lot as it was challenging and fun. Why remove a gun package that is also on a mobile tier 5 medium and a tier 4 TD? T49 gets to keep its derp gun yet this one doesn't? Maybe we should spam support tickets requesting gold refunds for our camo since the tank we put money into effectively no longer exists.
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heg82
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Post by heg82 on Dec 8, 2017 7:00:48 GMT
Yes they nerfed a lot of light tanks but they removed scout matchmaking, with that some tanks would be insanely OP if they stayed like before the update.
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hexarcana
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Post by hexarcana on Dec 8, 2017 8:03:54 GMT
Yes they nerfed a lot of light tanks but they removed scout matchmaking, with that some tanks would be insanely OP if they stayed like before the update. Sure, but have you played the VK28.01? This is the same gun that is on the mobile PZ4H platform at tier 5 and the fairly mobile Hetzer at tier 4. It's not that great of a gun at 6-8 as most tanks have enough armor to prevent penetration, and it's very difficult to lead shots with. It has a high skill ceiling and it requires a great crew to get past its gunhandling, terrain resistance and poor camo issues. They've turned it into a shitty version of a VK30.01D or pz3/4. This was a tank performing so badly statistically on Xbox that it could have benefited from being left alone.
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chimonakimi
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Post by chimonakimi on Dec 8, 2017 9:47:12 GMT
"Ticket #22902
Category: Game Support Sub-category: Game Support
I was going to play my VK 28.01 (Tier 6 German light) and realized you've removed the 105mm gun from its packages, can this be undone or can you give me back the full silver amount as the tank I've bought is now replaced with an underperforming tank? Thank you."
Now we wait.
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Atom Priest
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Post by Atom Priest on Dec 8, 2017 13:10:15 GMT
no scout MM either? Now scouts are just paper mediums with shit guns. Great. Anyone know if they changed anything on the spic? If that's untouched it might be the only one I play.
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cyrex005
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Post by cyrex005 on Dec 8, 2017 13:17:34 GMT
no scout MM either? Now scouts are just paper mediums with shit guns. Great. Anyone know if they changed anything on the spic? If that's untouched it might be the only one I play. Spahpanzer I C Removed 90mm Mecar mit Mehrladeeinrichtung gun Removed Hotchkiss 6 Zyl Benzin 154 PS engine Replaced SEM25 with AN-GRC-7 Research cost: 43,100 -> 53,200 Weight: 3764 -> 3739 Chassis 1 Max health: 165 -> 150 Max regen health: 130 -> 115 Chassis 2 Max health: 175 -> 160 Max regen health: 135 -> 120 Turret 1 90mm D921 F1 gun Reload time: 7.9 -> 10 Turret 2 View Range: 400 -> 390 90mm Mecar gun Reload speed: 7.9 -> 9 Hotchkiss 6 Zyl Benzin 164 PS Horsepower: 164 -> 190 Max health: 234 -> 200 Max regen health: 123 -> 100 Repair cost: 5 -> 8 Health regen per sec: 5.6875 -> 7 Health burn per sec: -> 9 Hotchkiss 6 Zyl Benzin 195 PS engine Horsepower: 195 -> 230 Max health: -> 260 Max regen health: -> 129 Repair cost: -> 8 Health regen per sec: -> 7 Health burn per sec: -> 12 Fire starting chance: -> .15 90mm D921 F1 gun Level: 7 -> 6 90mm OFL 90 shell Penetration: 170 145 -> 145 125 Damage: 240 -> 220 90mm OCC 90 shell Penetration: 250 250 -> 210 210 Damage: 240 -> 220 90mm OE 90 shell Damage: 320 -> 270 90mm Mecar gun 90mm Mecar AP shell Penetration: 180 160 -> 158 134 Damage: 240 -> 220 90mm Mecar HEAT shell Penetration: 250 250 -> 210 210 Damage: 240 -> 220 90mm Mecar HE shell Damage: 320 -> 270 Package 1: Hotchkiss 6 Zyl Benzin 154 PS -> Hotchkiss 6 Zyl Benzin 164 PS Package 2: Hotchkiss 6 Zyl Benzin 164 PS -> Hotchkiss 6 Zyl Benzin 195 PS SEM25 -> AN-GRC-7 Package 3: 90mm D921 F1 -> 90mm Mecar SEM25 -> AN-GRC-7 Package 4 Removed Package 5 Removed
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Atom Priest
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Post by Atom Priest on Dec 8, 2017 13:41:47 GMT
oh ffs
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chimonakimi
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Post by chimonakimi on Dec 8, 2017 15:52:22 GMT
The probably common cut/paste reply: "Hello Chimonakimi,
Thank you for playing World of Tanks and for contacting Wargaming NA Support Team!
We are sorry to hear you are disappointed with the tank rebalancing and the changes in the tech tree that was recently applied during the patch 4.2.
While you may be frustrated, please know that we monitor our servers and the performance of tanks in order to ensure that the battlefield stays fair, while adhering as closely as we can to historical accuracy.
As part of our monitoring, we reserve the right to change our tanks in order to keep the game fair when we release updates. Unfortunately, we cannot offer any refunds for vehicles that a player purchased, uses, and simply doesn't like.
While we are sorry for your disappointment, we will continue to release new tanks and hope in the future you can find a tank you enjoy more.
Should you have any other concerns, please visit our Frequently Asked Questions page.
Have a great day!
Best Regards,"
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chimonakimi
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Post by chimonakimi on Dec 8, 2017 15:53:16 GMT
My response: "I'm not accepting that, if this is your solution to adding the lights, i.e. nerfing people's favourite tanks, go ahead and undo this update. You have ruined two of my favourite tanks to play and turned them into shriveled up shells of their former self, this is not balance, this is laziness. You claim to be a separate game from PC yet when it takes effort to do something you follow PC like a sick dog.
I would like the 105 mm gun reintroduced to this tank or I'd like its price back in silver."
Do you think they can ban me for creating and reopening tickets?
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chimonakimi
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Post by chimonakimi on Dec 8, 2017 17:37:37 GMT
Just went ahead and sold the tank, tried one game with the 75, doesn't work for me at all. Kinda bummed about this one in all honesty.
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hexarcana
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Post by hexarcana on Dec 8, 2017 22:07:17 GMT
My response: "I'm not accepting that, if this is your solution to adding the lights, i.e. nerfing people's favourite tanks, go ahead and undo this update. You have ruined two of my favourite tanks to play and turned them into shriveled up shells of their former self, this is not balance, this is laziness. You claim to be a separate game from PC yet when it takes effort to do something you follow PC like a sick dog. I would like the 105 mm gun reintroduced to this tank or I'd like its price back in silver." Do you think they can ban me for creating and reopening tickets? I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if they block you from sending support tickets. I'll find out for you, as I want the gold I was defrauded and don't care if I can't play again, I'm never giving them another dime.
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hexarcana
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Post by hexarcana on Dec 8, 2017 22:39:23 GMT
"Hey Hex Arcana,
Thank you for contacting Wargaming support!
As you have noticed, there was a drastic change towards our tech tree for light tanks wherein a niew tier has been added as well as vehicles. We appreciate all the support you've given to World of Tanks Console however, we are unable to roll back or make special exceptions on this matter. What we can do is to forward your feedback to our development team to take into consideration. We greatly appreciate your understanding and patience on the matter. We hope that despite any negative experiences you have had, you continue to enjoy the game for all it's positive aspects.
Thank you for your continued support! Have a great day ahead!"
Didn't PC refund the people they f**cked over? Unacceptable. Here comes support ticket #2!
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chimonakimi
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Post by chimonakimi on Dec 9, 2017 2:22:12 GMT
"Hey Hex Arcana, Thank you for contacting Wargaming support! As you have noticed, there was a drastic change towards our tech tree for light tanks wherein a niew tier has been added as well as vehicles. We appreciate all the support you've given to World of Tanks Console however, we are unable to roll back or make special exceptions on this matter. What we can do is to forward your feedback to our development team to take into consideration. We greatly appreciate your understanding and patience on the matter. We hope that despite any negative experiences you have had, you continue to enjoy the game for all it's positive aspects. Thank you for your continued support! Have a great day ahead!" Didn't PC refund the people they f**cked over? Unacceptable. Here comes support ticket #2! "Thanks for the money but fuck you" Dirty cunts
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hexarcana
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Post by hexarcana on Dec 9, 2017 4:02:01 GMT
Lol yeah...Thanks for the money sucker! I could have been swimming in ESO DLC's on black friday but no, I had to give these assclowns the money. Try to enjoy the positive aspects of the game, like the yolo light brigades, stuttering lag & FPS drops, ninja satellites of death, repair wheel, client reticle and football-field size maps in your new crapified medium tank with Red Ryder bb gun. Just a spooooonful of sugar helps the medicine go downnn.
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