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Post by Dado on Sept 24, 2016 22:38:42 GMT
I was trying to be somewhat PC but ghetto google is as good a descriptor as any for the ones doing the rioting.
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Post by Snorelacks on Sept 24, 2016 22:48:18 GMT
The fact of the matter is there riots took place prior to all the facts being known. CNN is right now reporting that the police department is going to release the dash cam and body cam videos soon. The fact is that these rioters are not rioting in their own neighborhoods as they did in Baltimore, but instead they rioted in an upscale part of town with shops and hotels and convenience stores being targeted. The fact is random drivers having nothing to do with perceived police violence were targeted, pulled out of their cars and trucks. Additionally, over 70% of those arrested were from out of state, meaning that some of this destruction and mayhem was organized. That's because Black Lives Matter are a bunch of colossal fuckwits who just piss every other bastard off when something happens to a black person, or even if something doesn't, in the case of the UK. They blocked up the runway at Gatwick Airport because there's "racism" in the police here. Their energy would be better spent protesting against the gang violence and black on black crime in inner cities, but you'll never see that happen.
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Post by Atom Priest on Sept 24, 2016 22:48:33 GMT
I was trying to be somewhat PC but ghetto google is as good a descriptor as any for the ones doing the rioting. You catch on quick
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Post by Dado on Sept 24, 2016 22:52:34 GMT
I was trying to be somewhat PC but ghetto google is as good a descriptor as any for the ones doing the rioting. You catch on quick I'm old but neither blind or stupid.
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Post by "statistically insignificant" on Sept 24, 2016 23:36:20 GMT
Looked like a man not listening, walking backwards slowly, and being shot in the back. But I'm no expert..
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Post by Dado on Sept 24, 2016 23:49:45 GMT
Looked like a man not listening, walking backwards slowly, and being shot in the back. But I'm no expert.. Not listening to police is what causes most of these type issues. If he was armed it didn't matter which way he was walking. See the previous point. I saw the unedited version of his widow's video. There's no sign of any wounds in his back. Don't you think if that were the case it would of been one of the main rage points for the ghetto googles?
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Post by Snorelacks on Sept 24, 2016 23:50:50 GMT
Looked like a man not listening, walking backwards slowly, and being shot in the back. But I'm no expert.. I guess there's another video they haven't released yet. In any case, this should play out through the judicial system. I'm all for peaceful protests. It's one of the things I love about this country, but acting out and destroying someone else's property doesn't solve anything.
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Post by "statistically insignificant" on Sept 25, 2016 0:04:41 GMT
CNN has shown both videos the police released. My comments were about the first. The second shows a cop trying to break the window of the man's vehicle and moving past him. He clearly wasn't the shooter.
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Post by Dado on Sept 25, 2016 0:10:55 GMT
I know what your comments were about. They're still incorrect. I was referring to the video his widow shot. It clearly shows him laying face down at the end of it and there's no signs of trauma to his back.
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Post by Snorelacks on Sept 25, 2016 0:23:41 GMT
There are still many unanswered questions regarding this case. There are also facts the media conveniently leaves out of the narrative- The officer that Shot Mr. Scott is also black, Mr. Scott was a convicted felon making it unlawful for him to even own a gun (mush less carry one), Mr. Scott previously spent seven years in a Texas prison for shooting someone (2005-2011).
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Post by JesterUSMC on Sept 25, 2016 0:31:12 GMT
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Post by JesterUSMC on Sept 25, 2016 0:37:29 GMT
Both videos - www.liveleak.com/view?i=766_1474758533Big issue with the video - They knew they were encountering an armed subject. The body cams should've been on the second they made their move towards the subject. The camera he was using was activated at the time the shots were fired and recorded the X-seconds prior to the activation wth no audio, thereby losing any verbal directions that they gave to the subject. When I make contact with someone, for example on a traffic stop, my camera turns on immediately after I activate my emergency lights to signal them to pull over. It captures every moment from then on, until I turn it off after turning my lights off after the offender has been released on their way.
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Post by JesterUSMC on Sept 25, 2016 0:42:45 GMT
At :22 seconds into the dash cam video, if you look at his right ankle - You can see his pant leg is caught on something, which more than likely is the ankle holster. It's my opinion that he drew from his ankle holster while stepping out of the car and the ankle holster caught the cuff of his pant leg. Also on the Officer's body camera -
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Post by JesterUSMC on Sept 25, 2016 0:45:00 GMT
Handgun - Holster -
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Sept 25, 2016 0:48:03 GMT
Unless he was actually pointing the gun at the policemen, wouldn't it have been better to taser him, rather than kill him?
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Post by JesterUSMC on Sept 25, 2016 0:52:41 GMT
Unless he was actually pointing the gun at the policemen, wouldn't it have been better to taser him, rather than kill him? Not necessarily. Also, they did not appear to have one at their disposal.
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Post by Snorelacks on Sept 25, 2016 0:55:46 GMT
Unless he was actually pointing the gun at the policemen, wouldn't it have been better to taser him, rather than kill him? If you were a law enforcement officer, would you be willing to bet your life on a taser against a man holding a gun? How long does it take for a man holding a gun at his waistband or his side to raise it up and fire? Not long enough for me to be willing to take that chance. Why didn't he just follow directions?
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Post by Dado on Sept 25, 2016 0:58:47 GMT
The guy in Tucsan had been tasered prior to walking back to his vehicle and reaching inside. Without knowing what drugs might have been in the Scott guy's system attempting to taser him could have gotten one of the officers shot.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Sept 25, 2016 1:02:14 GMT
Unless he was actually pointing the gun at the policemen, wouldn't it have been better to taser him, rather than kill him? If you were a law enforcement officer, would you be willing to bet your life on a taser against a man holding a gun? How long does it take for a man holding a gun at his waistband or his side to raise it up and fire? Not long enough for me to be willing to take that chance. Why didn't he just follow directions? I suspect he didn't follow directions because he was off his head on drugs. From what I can see he had a gun. I didn't see him pointing it at anyone.
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Post by Snorelacks on Sept 25, 2016 1:06:55 GMT
If you were a law enforcement officer, would you be willing to bet your life on a taser against a man holding a gun? How long does it take for a man holding a gun at his waistband or his side to raise it up and fire? Not long enough for me to be willing to take that chance. Why didn't he just follow directions? I suspect he didn't follow directions because he was off his head on drugs. From what I can see he had a gun. I didn't see him pointing it at anyone. Who knows. the only one's who really know what happened are the officers there and the witnesses. The black officer that shot him did not have a body camera.
If he was off his head on drugs, it's be even more reason to not trust a man with a gun in his hands.
I'm not sure if the responding officers ran his plate and his criminal record prior to approaching him, but he did spend seven years in prison for previously shooting someone.
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