Gun Control vs. Gun Rights. Debate it

Those were re-branded Mossberg's. And yes, they do shoot well. Mine was branded as a Western Field.

I don't know the exact mechanics of how it works, but there's a ton of people that get denied yearly (the FBI publishes the total number), so I'd assume at least some of those would have to be mental health related.

I have a solution to the gun violence issue.






From here forth murder shall be illegal.

Problem solved. You're welcome.

Completely unrelated, but I always scoff at the people who say that legalising cannabis would reduce drug crime. Of course it would, because all the times when people were breaking the law by selling and using cannabis suddenly become legal. It's like saying if you legalised theft then the number of theft-related crimes would go down. Of course it fucking would, since all the crimes aren't crimes any more.

Sorry, carry on.

The other problem with gun safes is that it essentially keeps the gun out of reach when you need it the most. If someone were to break into your house, do you think you'll have time to get your key or punch in your code to your safe? Of course not. So that's why I have a problem with gun safes.

However, there are products on the market here in the States that allow for easier access but still keeps your guns out of the hands of your children or those that shouldn't have it. One that I keep hearing about is The Gun Box. It's a gun safe but it can use you fingerprint, RFID, etc. to open it, allowing you to get to your firearm faster.

I'll leave a link to their website below.

www.thegunbox.com

Yeah I think the biometric single-handgun lock boxes are a good solution here. Gun is still out of reach of minors, but would take maybe an extra 2-3 seconds to get to vs. just having it unlocked.

I was mostly talking about in the event a stolen gun is used in a crime, but that works too.

Soooo tempted to wade into this lol.

There is no such thing as reasonable gun control, eh? Look to the rest of the Western world, will you? Look to Britain, where we see a gun death every month or so on the news, and then it's like one or two dead. That includes inner city gang crimes in places like Manchester. Look to Germany, to France, to Norway. But ooooh, no, that's not good, because "we're not free", the "government controls us". It is at times like this that parts of the US constitution fail to look like rights and beliefs and just look like a rejection of authority and a way to keep the government out of as much of your life as possible, because for some reason you don't trust your own democracy. I'm not saying that gun control would work in the US now, because at this point, frankly, the situation is fucked up beyond all recognition, there is no easy solution because the whole thing is a complete shitshow. What I am saying is that this throwing-out of authority and mistrust of elected government has led to a situation that is, I think, irredeemable. And all the while, you look at the rest of the civilised world, and say that they're not free, that they're controlled by bureaucracies, that they have no choice and right to defend themselves. But, I ask you, how often, how pressing of a need is there, for people in Europe, in Asia, in the rest of the First World, to own a firearm? And then, look at how often there are large-scale gun murders, massacres, even. It hardly ever happens. And yet you're just looking at this situation citing your superior freedom of choice to the rest of the world. And another thing, this condescending, supercilious, scornful and imperious rhetoric against the anti-gun people is pathetic. Fucking stop it. A lot of you just don't listen, or care, about points that don't support your own agenda. You dismiss any point out of hand because it's not pro-gun, you treat anti-gun people like stupid, mindless drones of some bullshit politician they probably don't care about. For some reason they often labelled as a liberal, too, which makes absolutely no fucking sense. Perhaps you could all do with shutting the fuck up, putting your guns down, and getting round a fucking table and talking, and stop the snobbish and haughty attitude. People that treat the anti-gun crowd like that do not have the moral high ground.

I've seen the news recently, and don't give me this biased media bullshit again, because it was an interview, I can use my own personal sense of judgement to form an opinion (that's another patronising thing, you don't trust the anti-gun people to form their own opinion and just label them as victims of biased anti-gun media), but there was this interview, and it was with a bloke who had gone about forming an armed group of black people who said that the police were the biggest threat. This man kept a pistol in his car, always loaded, with no safety catch. Just ready to shoot someone. There was a lot of this rhetoric that the police were a gang, there was this "us versus them" mentality, a "kill or be killed" situation. And look, I know that this isn't representative of the entirety of your country and people, but from the perspective of a Briton, the very fact this this kind of situation has been allowed to develop is nothing short of disgusting. It's incomprehensible that there are groups of armed people who hate the police and the government and are ready to shoot someone at the first whisper of police mistreatment. This situation, from the outside, is shocking, it's not something we can understand or justify.

And as for the "why do you play games with guns in them", I play games with guns in them because those games have guns in a proper context, in use by the armed forces. I don't play a game with guns in because I want to own a fucking assault rifle and shoot the first person to set foot in the my house without my permission. Oh, and this "It's not real and I like tanks is not an acceptable answer". Bullshit, that's another example of your just discounting anti-gun points before they're even brought up. It's frankly childish. It's like a child's game, where there's one kid who makes up a bunch of bullshit rules that benefit him and so no one else has as much fun as him. Shut the fuck up with that crap.

Don't take this as an attempt at a gun control discussion point, by-the-way. Take this an outpouring of my, and many other people outside of America's, disgust and dumbfoundedness at the situation. So don't bother trying to counter any of my points, you don't need to, because at this point I don't give a shit. I shall watch over the coming months with interest. That is all. And try not to take offence to anything I've said, it's not a personal statement to any of you, it's a general overview.