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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 13:24:46 GMT
Better to vote for the lesser of two evils than not vote at all No.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 13:26:15 GMT
Like I said. I'm not voting for president. I'm voting for Supreme Court Justices. I have much more confidence in Trump putting better Justices up (I've seen his list) than Clinton will.
Normally I'd consider third party but the SCOTUS vacancies are just too damn important.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 13:29:04 GMT
Better to vote for the lesser of two evils than not vote at all No. Yes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 13:29:55 GMT
Plus I'd love to see the southern border wall actually happen.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 13:31:09 GMT
No. If you think "this candidate will fuck it up, and so will this one, but one will fuck it up slightly less", then one of them is still going to fuck it up. If you think neither will be a good leader, you're not obliged to vote for one of two people. Vote for a third party or just don't vote.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 13:37:10 GMT
No. If you think "this candidate will fuck it up, and so will this one, but one will fuck it up slightly less", then one of them is still going to fuck it up. If you think neither will be a good leader, you're not obliged to vote for one of two people. Vote for a third party or just don't vote. The argument could be made that by voting third party or not voting at all you are essentially voting for the one that will screw things up the most. Like I said, I'm voting for Trump because the SCOTUS seats are too important. Ill hold my nose and vote Trump because I've seen the list of candidates he's put forward.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 13:39:39 GMT
No. If you think "this candidate will fuck it up, and so will this one, but one will fuck it up slightly less", then one of them is still going to fuck it up. If you think neither will be a good leader, you're not obliged to vote for one of two people. Vote for a third party or just don't vote. The argument could be made that by voting third party or not voting at all you are essentially voting for the one that will screw things up the most. That isn't how it works. At all. You're just reducing the number of people that voted by one.
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Aug 19, 2016 13:41:57 GMT
How does not voting help anything? One of them is STILL gonna be president like it or not. Why on earth would you not want the more evil one to be denied office? That doesn't make any damn sense, you go for the best you can get and if you can only get garbage at least vote against the rotten diseased garbage. That's your duty as a citizen
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 13:43:38 GMT
How does not voting help anything? One of them is STILL gonna be president like it or not. Why on earth would you not want the more evil one to be denied office? That doesn't make any damn sense, you go for the best you can get and if you can only get garbage at least vote against the rotten diseased garbage. That's your duty as a citizen If you don't like a candidate, you don't vote for them, you vote for one you do like, yes?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 13:54:37 GMT
How does not voting help anything? One of them is STILL gonna be president like it or not. Why on earth would you not want the more evil one to be denied office? That doesn't make any damn sense, you go for the best you can get and if you can only get garbage at least vote against the rotten diseased garbage. That's your duty as a citizen If you don't like a candidate, you don't vote for them, you vote for one you do like, yes? Yes. I also have a pet unicorn named Mike Tyson that farts rainbows, can eat all the lasagna I want with out getting fat, and am the primary recipient to Bill Gates will. You vote for the best option out of the shitty options you have. Not voting is essentially a vote for the other candidate unless you can guarantee with 100% certainty that one of the other guys voters is staying home as well.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 13:57:02 GMT
If you don't like a candidate, you don't vote for them, you vote for one you do like, yes? Yes. I also have a pet unicorn named Mike Tyson that farts rainbows, can eat all the lasagna I want with out getting fat, and am the primary recipient to Bill Gates will. You vote for the best option out of the shitty options you have. Not voting is essentially a vote for the other candidate unless you can guarantee with 100% certainty that one of the other guys voters is staying home as well. That's like being given the option of being beheaded, hanged or not killed at all and then going for the "beheaded" option because it's not as bad as being hanged.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 14:01:14 GMT
Yes. I also have a pet unicorn named Mike Tyson that farts rainbows, can eat all the lasagna I want with out getting fat, and am the primary recipient to Bill Gates will. You vote for the best option out of the shitty options you have. Not voting is essentially a vote for the other candidate unless you can guarantee with 100% certainty that one of the other guys voters is staying home as well. That's like being given the option of being beheaded, hanged or not killed at all and then going for the "beheaded" option because it's not as bad as being hanged. Yup. I'd rather have say in the final decision instead of leaving it completely up to others though. Its going to happen either way.
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 14:07:31 GMT
That's like being given the option of being beheaded, hanged or not killed at all and then going for the "beheaded" option because it's not as bad as being hanged. Yup. I'd rather have say in the final decision instead of leaving it completely up to others though. Its going to happen either way. But that makes no sense. You're saying that it's going to go badly, but rather than "if it's going to go badly, I don't want to have contributed to it" you're saying "it's going to go badly either way so I might as well have helped make it happen".
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Aug 19, 2016 14:15:54 GMT
I'm not understanding why you wouldn't want to vote for the better option, is that not the whole purpose of voting? I realize I don't HAVE to vote for anyone, but I will most certainly vote for the best candidate. That's the only sensible thing to do
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Aug 19, 2016 14:16:51 GMT
Yup. I'd rather have say in the final decision instead of leaving it completely up to others though. Its going to happen either way. But that makes no sense. You're saying that it's going to go badly, but rather than "if it's going to go badly, I don't want to have contributed to it" you're saying "it's going to go badly either way so I might as well have helped make it happen". Better bad than worse. Period
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Post by Vince Cable's Exotic Spresm on Aug 19, 2016 14:36:23 GMT
I'm not understanding why you wouldn't want to vote for the better option, is that not the whole purpose of voting? I realize I don't HAVE to vote for anyone, but I will most certainly vote for the best candidate. That's the only sensible thing to do Yes, but if you don't agree with anything any of them says, what's the point of voting for either of them? You vote to express your opinion on a candidate's policy, so you vote for the one you agree with. If you don't agree with either of them then there's no point in voting for them. If you'd rather neither of them were president, don't help one of them become president because someone else is a bit worse than them.
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Aug 19, 2016 18:18:51 GMT
With Trump you are looking at some embarrassments for the US, a lot of blocked bills, a lot of comedians striking it rich, a that's about it. Checks and balances will protect Muslims and everyone else.
With Hilary it's not so, she has far less resistance to her crazy agendas and in her term gun registration/confiscation is imminent along with more of her treason that the Justice Department will continue to ignore. She is the worst presidential candidate probably of all time.
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Post by A240mm/Gr8Artiste on Aug 19, 2016 18:21:30 GMT
Why can't voters be bothered to check a fucking resume
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